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If two people start a company are they founders or co-founders?

Is the word founder used only if there is one person starting a company? If you have two or more, are you automatically labeled as co-founders?

I see a lot of people use co-founder when there are more than one starting team members, but the founders of our country weren't called the "Founding Co-Founders".

Also, if you type and/or say the word founder ten times, it starts to lose all meaning.

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Re:If two people start a company are they founders or co-fou... by olefoo on Sunday November 23, 2008 @07:24PM (#374263)
This just an artifact of english usage.

Joe and Jim start a company making widgetry for social networks.

Joe is a founder. Jim is a founder. Joe and Jim are the founders of the social network widgetry company.

Jim is Joe's co-founder. Joe is Jim's co-founder.

The "co-" prefix should really only be used where it removes confusion and makes it clear that there is more than one founder.

Re:If two people start a company are they founders or co-fou... by IsaacSchlueter on Sunday November 23, 2008 @07:24PM (#374264)
Also, if you type and/or say the word founder ten times, it starts to lose all meaning.

Hahaha, I overhead some baked high school kids in Starbucks today have exactly that conversation. (But I think the word was "snickerdoodle".)

Re:If two people start a company are they founders or co-fou... by joe_adk on Sunday November 23, 2008 @11:09PM (#374445)
From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamais_vu

From a linguistic perspective, the phenomenon that a word after frequent repetition seems to lose its meaning is connected with the very nature of words. A word as a unit of language has three characteristics:

* It has form, i.e. it is shaped out of sounds or, in the case of written language, out of letters (characters).

* It has function, which (among other things) means that it operates in a meaningful sentence.

* It has meaning, which implies that it refers to a certain unit of thought (a concept or an idea) within a context.

However, when a word is repeated over and over again, it is in fact only the form which is repeated. There is no sentence, so the function of the word is eliminated. Its meaning, too, is effectively eliminated, because there is no context. A few repetitions will leave the language user's memory and expectation intact: he remembers the meaning and expects a meaningful reference. Continued repetition, however, will more and more foreground the word form to the exclusion of function and meaning, until the word literally "makes no sense". It is not the word that is being repeated, but only one of its aspects: the word form.

Re:If two people start a company are they founders or co-fou... by mythogen on Sunday November 23, 2008 @08:51PM (#374343)
If I type and/or say the word founder ten times, it starts to mean "to fail or utterly collapse".
Re:If two people start a company are they founders or co-fou... by jwilliams on Sunday November 23, 2008 @07:23PM (#374262)
I don't think it matters.

What I do find odd is where startups use the CxO titles... Can you really be CEO of a two person startup? Seems a bit ludicrous.

Re:If two people start a company are they founders or co-fou... by wheels on Sunday November 23, 2008 @08:49PM (#374342)
There are two reasons I see for doing something like that:

- The person is dealing with business-to-business transactions and their position should indicate that they're able to make decisions for the company.

- They were selected specifically for an executive role, rather than simply being a buddy of one of the guys starting things. At lot of startups are built that way.

Re:If two people start a company are they founders or co-fou... by poppysan on Sunday November 23, 2008 @07:27PM (#374268)
You can be a founder and also a position such as CTO and CEO, based on what you are contributing work-wise.
Re:If two people start a company are they founders or co-fou... by jwilliams on Sunday November 23, 2008 @07:45PM (#374282)
Shrug - Yeah, I know - I'm probably just being a grump, but it seems ostentatious to me.
Re:If two people start a company are they founders or co-fou... by emmett on Sunday November 23, 2008 @07:52PM (#374291)
It's critical for dealing with business people outside the startup world. It's hard to get them to take you seriously unless you're the CxO of something. That's why we use the titles at jtv anyway.
Re:If two people start a company are they founders or co-fou... by jwilliams on Sunday November 23, 2008 @08:38PM (#374327)
Ok - Probably just my experience - might just be a nomenclature difference between the US and UK/Aus/etc.
Re:If two people start a company are they founders or co-fou... by jamesbritt on Monday November 24, 2008 @10:06PM (#375916)
I assigned myself the title of UFO - Ultra-Freaky Officer - at one company.
Re:If two people start a company are they founders or co-fou... by simonk on Sunday November 23, 2008 @07:46PM (#374285)
Its the legal title if your incorporated.
Re:If two people start a company are they founders or co-fou... by sanj on Sunday November 23, 2008 @10:02PM (#374394)
I don't believe that's true. I believe that you have to have a President, but not a CxO.
Re:If two people start a company are they founders or co-fou... by jwilliams on Sunday November 23, 2008 @08:29PM (#374321)
Is that that case in the US?

I've had companies in other jurisdictions where this isn't the case - UK/Aus tend to use CxO for public companies. Private/limited companies tend to have Managing Directors, General Managers, Presidents, etc.

Re:If two people start a company are they founders or co-fou... by Encosia on Sunday November 23, 2008 @07:12PM (#374249)
Titles are meaningless. Especially the difference between minor variations of the same effective title.

In the end, both of those are the same thing.

Re:If two people start a company are they founders or co-fou... by defunkt on Sunday November 23, 2008 @09:42PM (#374380)
At GitHub we call ourselves co-founders.
Re:If two people start a company are they founders or co-fou... by vaksel on Sunday November 23, 2008 @07:14PM (#374250)
doesn't really matter, but I'd say that the co-founder label is more appropriate since it tells the person that you didn't do the whole thing all by yourself.

your other thing doesn't really make sense, they were called the founding fathers...which by itself means that there was more than 1.

Re:If two people start a company are they founders or co-fou... by petergroverman on Sunday November 23, 2008 @09:14PM (#374361)
What is the Plural of 'Prius'? Pri-i? Prium? Priuseses?