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Re:All You Need to Become a Servant Leader by tstrimple on Thursday September 07, 2023 @11:10AM (#37420074)
I'm confused as to what you think work is. Managers are just hirelings as well. They have different responsibilities, which includes effective delegation. If you think "ownership" of a process is just a trick to get employees to work, what's the alternative here? You're responsible for the outcomes of this process but don't own it and thus can't guide the direction of it? That sounds patently terrible.

The benefit of owning a process is the control you have over it. I can't tell you how many times I've heard engineers bitch about the decisions made over their head that they have to conform to. But now engineers apparently are just going to bitch if given control over the process. There's no winning with some of you.

Re:All You Need to Become a Servant Leader by rexpop on Thursday September 07, 2023 @11:15AM (#37420168)
The alternative is actual ownership.
Re:All You Need to Become a Servant Leader by marcinzm on Thursday September 07, 2023 @11:19AM (#37420234)
Are you fine getting $0 salary for the year if your area of ownership doesn't do well that year?
Re:All You Need to Become a Servant Leader by avgcorrection on Thursday September 07, 2023 @06:20PM (#37426400)
What kind of ownership entails “salaries” based on “areas of ownership”? This just seems confused.

Of course! If you have ownership of something then you also bear the burden in case of loss or mismanagement. Blatantly obvious answer to a useless intended-as-rhetorical question.

Re:All You Need to Become a Servant Leader by avgcorrection on Friday September 08, 2023 @03:14PM (#37438072)
> I'm confused as to what you think work is. Managers are just hirelings as well.

So what? People can be hired to be more direct servants of the ownership class.

They often have more pay and power after all.