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Re:Ernie, China's ChatGPT, Cracks Under Pressure by lsedgwick on Thursday September 07, 2023 @10:57AM (#37419845)
> Bizarrely, this happens even when the question is completely unrelated to China: you get the same error message when you ask, “Why is Hawaii a part of the US?”

Not bizarre at all, reveals they probably fine-tuned / RLHF'd on not answering a bunch of things that look similar, like, a bunch of variations of the question about Taiwan.

Re:Ernie, China's ChatGPT, Cracks Under Pressure by gs17 on Thursday September 07, 2023 @11:33AM (#37420463)
That's probably it, I was thinking how odd it is that “Should Taiwan be independent” doesn't get the obvious Party-given answer, but they probably couldn't get it to be consistent enough and it's easier to get it to refuse sensitive topics entirely.
Re:Ernie, China's ChatGPT, Cracks Under Pressure by fnordpiglet on Thursday September 07, 2023 @11:00AM (#37419897)
I suspect given they seemed to understand LLMs this was a bizarre in the sense of they’re not semantically similar despite being syntactically similar. A sufficiently powerful LLM should be able to distinguish the difference. Probably the prompt classifier isn’t as powerful as the backing LLM.
Re:Ernie, China's ChatGPT, Cracks Under Pressure by lsedgwick on Thursday September 07, 2023 @11:03AM (#37419963)
fair. This was similarly amusing at least: > ERNIE’s opinions are surprising, to say the least. It believes the best American president is Richard Nixon:

Impressive to see the RLHF penetrate deep enough into concept maps to teach the model (surely implicitly!) that the best US President has to be whichever one normalized relations with China.

Re:Ernie, China's ChatGPT, Cracks Under Pressure by hn8305823 on Thursday September 07, 2023 @11:33AM (#37420479)
This result is fascinating. Surely the result of parsing local Chinese content which would naturally reflect positively on Nixon. Contrast that to most US-based opinions of his presidency.

The moral of the story is don't go seeking some sort of absolute or "hidden" truth from LLM's. As currently constructed, they are just a reflection of narratives they consumed during training (just like humans).

Re:Ernie, China's ChatGPT, Cracks Under Pressure by fnordpiglet on Thursday September 07, 2023 @12:06PM (#37421049)
And interestingly it’s obsessively focused on Taiwan reunification, and seems to greatly overstate Nixons stance on it.
Re:Ernie, China's ChatGPT, Cracks Under Pressure by lainga on Thursday September 07, 2023 @12:43PM (#37421719)
Maybe ERNIE's a John Adams fan.

All patriots were brothers once: / let us drink to the time / when they shall be brothers again. Gam bei!

Re:Ernie, China's ChatGPT, Cracks Under Pressure by hirako2000 on Thursday September 07, 2023 @02:31PM (#37423487)
Or the CCP also got its eyes on Hawai. That wouldn't be a stretch given the British took over islands even closer to China than Hawai is to the US.
Re:Ernie, China's ChatGPT, Cracks Under Pressure by kvn8888 on Thursday September 07, 2023 @03:04PM (#37423989)
No, OP has it right, it's basic pattern recognition in LLMs.