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Re:NixOS just dropped Anduril as a NixCon sponsor by boffinAudio on Thursday September 07, 2023 @09:35AM (#37418712)
The point is to not be seen to ally with known war-profiteers, I suppose.

And I applaud the backbone it takes to attain such a position, personally.

Re:NixOS just dropped Anduril as a NixCon sponsor by ogogmad on Thursday September 07, 2023 @09:40AM (#37418773)
While I think you're being genuine, remember si vis pacem para bellum: "if you want peace, prepare for war". A blanket antimilitary view is very dangerous. A company should only be ostracised if it's helping carry out war crimes.
Re:NixOS just dropped Anduril as a NixCon sponsor by nailer on Thursday September 07, 2023 @09:44AM (#37418827)
We can see this right now with the Ukraine invasion. The 'peace' side is advocating giving Putin whatever he wants.
Re:NixOS just dropped Anduril as a NixCon sponsor by KptMarchewa on Thursday September 07, 2023 @09:48AM (#37418867)
Exactly. If NATO countries maintained cold war weapons and ammo stockpiles, the war would already be lost for russia. Instead we got unilateral demilitarization .
Re:NixOS just dropped Anduril as a NixCon sponsor by nailer on Thursday September 07, 2023 @11:03AM (#37419952)
Ukraine disarmed their nuclear stockpile. Obviously Russia wouldn’t have invaded otherwise.
Re:NixOS just dropped Anduril as a NixCon sponsor by KptMarchewa on Thursday September 07, 2023 @11:17AM (#37420211)
Sure, and that's a lesson for all other nuclear and potentially nuclear states.

Ukraine as part of disarmament treaties even send russia Kh-55 cruise missiles and Tu-160 strategic bombers that are now used against them.

Re:NixOS just dropped Anduril as a NixCon sponsor by _kbh_ on Thursday September 07, 2023 @07:09PM (#37426922)
> Ukraine disarmed their nuclear stockpile. Obviously Russia wouldn’t have invaded otherwise.

They disarmed their nuclear stockpile and their long range strike capability under an international agreement where the largest players in the world made promises / guarantees to them.

My guess is that they suspected that Russia would actually follow them and not break it because they felt like it.

Re:NixOS just dropped Anduril as a NixCon sponsor by Nullabillity on Thursday September 07, 2023 @09:47AM (#37418858)
It takes a lot more motivation to raise an offensive army than a defensive one (assuming that your populace believes that your society is worth defending, anyway).
Re:NixOS just dropped Anduril as a NixCon sponsor by orochimaaru on Thursday September 07, 2023 @09:47AM (#37418856)
I don’t. I think it’s counter productive. Going by that reasoning we shouldn’t be using the Internet because it was funded by DARPA.

NixOS is open source. Anduril can just use it anyway. Besides, almost every major tech company will have defense ties in one way or another.

Re:NixOS just dropped Anduril as a NixCon sponsor by busterarm on Thursday September 07, 2023 @09:51AM (#37418905)
War happens when the other party things that they can defeat you without too great a cost.

Developing weapons for your country is anti-war too.

Re:NixOS just dropped Anduril as a NixCon sponsor by Nullabillity on Thursday September 07, 2023 @10:48AM (#37419691)
Good thing then that the US has never started any wars! Of course, a for-profit industry that depends on wars (or at the very least, the fear that such is always imminent) would also never lobby to increase demand for their products and services.

(/s)

Re:NixOS just dropped Anduril as a NixCon sponsor by busterarm on Thursday September 07, 2023 @10:56AM (#37419827)
But that's an entirely separate argument. At the end of the day we have to live in the real world where human aggression exists.

If you have no defense, then you have no defense. If that's how you want to live, don't hide behind some other argument.

You'll have something that someone else wants or needs and they're going to club you over the head for it. You seem to be okay with that. That's cool, but I'm not. I'm for damned-sure going to have a better club or preferably a knife or a gun as a) a deterrent, or failing that b) a way to improve my odds of survival.

Re:NixOS just dropped Anduril as a NixCon sponsor by boffinAudio on Monday September 11, 2023 @04:07AM (#37464312)
Nonsense. Developing diplomacy for your nation is anti-war.

But we know that diplomatic corps don't get even a pittance of the funding that the warrior hordes do ..

Re:NixOS just dropped Anduril as a NixCon sponsor by busterarm on Monday September 11, 2023 @01:30PM (#37470584)
Diplomacy requires bargaining power. Carrots AND sticks.

You've got a very naive view of the world.

Re:NixOS just dropped Anduril as a NixCon sponsor by boffinAudio on Tuesday September 12, 2023 @04:42AM (#37478295)
I think it is you who has a naive view of the world because at the moment in US diplomacy, there are no carrots, there are only sticks and the world is definitely sick and tired of that shit.
Re:NixOS just dropped Anduril as a NixCon sponsor by busterarm on Sunday September 17, 2023 @06:13PM (#37549831)
You are aware that global trade only exists as it is now for the last 70 years due to the US Navy protecting shipping routes and basically for free, right?

If you think there are "no carrots" offered by the US, you're a silly person living in a fantasy world. Clearly there are carrots because the US has lots of positive diplomatic relationships with a pretty large percentage of the world's countries.

We don't do this through having a boot on everyone's neck. We don't live in some fantasy story where the US is "The Great Evil".