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Re:If You’ve Got a New Car, It’s a Data Privacy Nightmare by kornhole on Wednesday September 06, 2023 @10:27AM (#37405650)
Kill switches are now required for cars produced after 2026. https://www.musclecarsandtrucks.com/biden-infrastructure-bil... It is for your safety. ;)
Re:If You’ve Got a New Car, It’s a Data Privacy Nightmare by eficek on Wednesday September 06, 2023 @11:00AM (#37406173)
Re:If You’ve Got a New Car, It’s a Data Privacy Nightmare by kornhole on Wednesday September 06, 2023 @11:27AM (#37406530)
Maybe kill-switch is not the best definition of the feature. The required technology monitors the driver to prevent starting the car or forcing it to pull over. In the context of the parent article which explains how the overall monitoring systems fail on privacy and security, we can see how these combined with the car stopping feature can be used against us. We are ultimately trusting the companies and government to do what is in our interests rather than theirs. Some people trust Apple not to use or share their data with government to be used against them. Trusting the largest corporation in the world and the most powerful government in the world is a major leap for me, but everybody theoretically makes their own choices.
Re:If You’ve Got a New Car, It’s a Data Privacy Nightmare by plagiarist on Wednesday September 06, 2023 @11:20AM (#37406448)
"It's not a kill switch, it slows the vehicle to a stop instead of being instant." I fail to see the practical difference. I don't want my car incorrectly deciding I am impaired and "coasting to a gentle stop" on the way to a hospital during a medical emergency or something.
Re:If You’ve Got a New Car, It’s a Data Privacy Nightmare by thegrim000 on Wednesday September 06, 2023 @11:45AM (#37406801)
Pretty much the definition of corrupt/biased "fact checkers" right here. It's a mechanism where the car can decide to turn itself off and prevent you from driving. It's literally a kill switch, where the car refuses your commands. They're arguing semantics about how it currently isn't a remote kill switch, only a local kill switch. Reminds me of other similarly ridiculous "fact checks" where someone claims something like "X is raising taxes by 9%!" and they fact check it as "completely false" because technically it's not 9%, it's 9.1%, or whatever.

Of course in the future the kill switch will also be mandated to be remotely triggerable, we all know it, but by that time the overton window will have shifted far enough, by things like mandating local kill switches, that making it remote as well will slip through easily in however many years.

I will never in my life own a vehicle that can decide, locally or remotely, to refuse to function, or that can decide to slam on the brakes by itself, or that can phone home data about me. Not sure how much longer I can get away with that before older, non-smart cars are declared evil and banned, in the name of climate change or walkable cities or whatever, but we'll see.

Re:If You’ve Got a New Car, It’s a Data Privacy Nightmare by CP3f6kMA on Wednesday September 06, 2023 @01:05PM (#37407887)
It's my car. Who are these people to place restrictions on what I do with it?
Re:If You’ve Got a New Car, It’s a Data Privacy Nightmare by TheLoafOfBread on Wednesday September 06, 2023 @11:10AM (#37406302)
Of course, that it won't be disabled by crooks and used for crimes like kidnapping people.
Re:If You’ve Got a New Car, It’s a Data Privacy Nightmare by Nifty3929 on Wednesday September 06, 2023 @02:48PM (#37409365)
I am not worried about crooks disabling my car. I’m worried about the government doing it.

We need to stop being fearful of each other and start becoming fearful of our overlords.

Re:If You’ve Got a New Car, It’s a Data Privacy Nightmare by TheLoafOfBread on Wednesday September 06, 2023 @03:45PM (#37410245)
Government is not going to kidnap me with such underhanded action. They will just arrest me for some made up crime and erase me from history.