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Re:UPI Payments: 10B Transactions a Month Done, Next Stop 100B by whizzter on Sunday September 03, 2023 @03:23AM (#37368403)
Don't confuse the check wielding Americans for the "west", for example Sweden/Norway/Finland has similar systems named Swish/Vipps/MobilePay (Phone number based with scannable QR codes,etc) that's taken over between people and smaller merchants (even young people organizing raves use Swish payments on-site despite it being potentially traceable) and the banks/companies involved in those services are now in the process of building cross-national support that probably will let other countries join soon.

I think the main takeaway is that phones and capable app ecosystems was a "hidden" disruption enabler vis-a-vis the traditional credit card processing companies that various actors in various countries has taken advantage of now, the big question is if/when they will make this internationally interoperable (considering the trouble foreigners in Sweden has with being excluded from these "easy" payments that at best requires a card or at worst cash it's an area that needs fixing).

Re:UPI Payments: 10B Transactions a Month Done, Next Stop 100B by chillbill on Sunday September 03, 2023 @03:28AM (#37368422)
Oh swish is traceable and actively monitored. A few college friends of mine were organizing a party and they all chipped in a 100 kr to one guy (about 25 individuals) who got a call the next day from his bank for suspicious activity.
Re:UPI Payments: 10B Transactions a Month Done, Next Stop 100B by whizzter on Sunday September 03, 2023 @03:36AM (#37368463)
Interesting to hear, I've heard of Swish has been a bit on edge trying to upsell people on merchant accounts and I wouldn't be surprised if some of these reports go to the tax office.

Still for those involved they wouldn't probably care too much as long as there isn't real-time reporting to the police to get events shut down (although with laxer laws in that area that'll probably fade as an concern).

Re:UPI Payments: 10B Transactions a Month Done, Next Stop 100B by sureglymop on Sunday September 03, 2023 @03:47AM (#37368520)
There is a similar thing in Switzerland called "Twint".
Re:UPI Payments: 10B Transactions a Month Done, Next Stop 100B by dotnet00 on Sunday September 03, 2023 @09:40AM (#37370348)
"Check wielding Americans"?

Haven't needed my checkbook in many years now, almost everywhere has tap-to-pay and the rare place which doesn't has a chip reader.

Re:UPI Payments: 10B Transactions a Month Done, Next Stop 100B by EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK on Sunday September 03, 2023 @11:07AM (#37371012)
But what if a company, for example, a utility, owes you money? This is still done exclusively via checks.