Re:Plan for 55,000-acre utopia dreamed by Silicon Valley eli...
by userbinator on Saturday September 02, 2023 @04:39AM
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In practice, utopia usually becomes dystopia.
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Re:Plan for 55,000-acre utopia dreamed by Silicon Valley eli...
by adaml_623 on Saturday September 02, 2023 @04:49AM
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References please
Re:Plan for 55,000-acre utopia dreamed by Silicon Valley eli...
by stareatgoats on Saturday September 02, 2023 @04:51AM
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Agree, but why? It's an interesting theoretical question when you think about it. Is it because people who have the money and means have a skewed concept of the world making them incapable of constructing utopias/well functioning "synthetic societies", or is it more fundamentally impossible? And in the latter case, why then should we even try to improve society?
Re:Plan for 55,000-acre utopia dreamed by Silicon Valley eli...
by throw_pm23 on Saturday September 02, 2023 @05:13AM
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Because every organically developing system has a great advantage that these projects lack: time. Cities evolve by gradual corrections/adjustments, you cannot anticipate every issue upfront.
Re:Plan for 55,000-acre utopia dreamed by Silicon Valley eli...
by timeon on Saturday September 02, 2023 @08:04AM
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Ideas needs to adapt when meeting reality.
Re:Plan for 55,000-acre utopia dreamed by Silicon Valley eli...
by ben_w on Saturday September 02, 2023 @11:22AM
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I don't even know if it's true, but if it is I'd guess the Typical Mind fallacy: most of us have blind spots where we don't think about how "good" people in a hurry would react, let alone the power-hungry actively trying to break it for their own gain.
Re:Plan for 55,000-acre utopia dreamed by Silicon Valley eli...
by renewiltord on Saturday September 02, 2023 @04:59AM
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I actually can’t think of any good examples. Brasilia? Chandigarh? Irvine? All seem fine relative to their neighborhood.
Re:Plan for 55,000-acre utopia dreamed by Silicon Valley eli...
by krisoft on Saturday September 02, 2023 @05:09AM
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In practice or in fictional books? If in practice I’m sure you can share a handful of examples.
Re:Plan for 55,000-acre utopia dreamed by Silicon Valley eli...
by pvitz on Saturday September 02, 2023 @05:57AM
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Sealand
Re:Plan for 55,000-acre utopia dreamed by Silicon Valley eli...
by flohofwoe on Saturday September 02, 2023 @06:07AM
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Fordlandia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fordl%C3%A2ndia
And for a really dark example:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonia_Dignidad
Also Disney's failed attempt:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EPCOT_(concept)
Finally an example that actually worked:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siemensstadt
...the project reminds me much more of the Chinese 'fake European cities' though:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/books/non-fiction/duplitecture-d...
Re:Plan for 55,000-acre utopia dreamed by Silicon Valley eli...
by forth_fool on Saturday September 02, 2023 @06:17AM
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Some examples: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freetown_Christiania (ongoing experiment, I guess), https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fordl%C3%A2ndia, Soviet Union