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Re:Plan for 55,000-acre utopia dreamed by Silicon Valley eli... by userbinator on Saturday September 02, 2023 @04:39AM (#37359588)
In practice, utopia usually becomes dystopia.
Re:Plan for 55,000-acre utopia dreamed by Silicon Valley eli... by adaml_623 on Saturday September 02, 2023 @04:49AM (#37359643)
References please
Re:Plan for 55,000-acre utopia dreamed by Silicon Valley eli... by stareatgoats on Saturday September 02, 2023 @04:51AM (#37359656)
Agree, but why? It's an interesting theoretical question when you think about it. Is it because people who have the money and means have a skewed concept of the world making them incapable of constructing utopias/well functioning "synthetic societies", or is it more fundamentally impossible? And in the latter case, why then should we even try to improve society?
Re:Plan for 55,000-acre utopia dreamed by Silicon Valley eli... by throw_pm23 on Saturday September 02, 2023 @05:13AM (#37359788)
Because every organically developing system has a great advantage that these projects lack: time. Cities evolve by gradual corrections/adjustments, you cannot anticipate every issue upfront.
Re:Plan for 55,000-acre utopia dreamed by Silicon Valley eli... by timeon on Saturday September 02, 2023 @08:04AM (#37360737)
Ideas needs to adapt when meeting reality.
Re:Plan for 55,000-acre utopia dreamed by Silicon Valley eli... by ben_w on Saturday September 02, 2023 @11:22AM (#37362312)
I don't even know if it's true, but if it is I'd guess the Typical Mind fallacy: most of us have blind spots where we don't think about how "good" people in a hurry would react, let alone the power-hungry actively trying to break it for their own gain.
Re:Plan for 55,000-acre utopia dreamed by Silicon Valley eli... by renewiltord on Saturday September 02, 2023 @04:59AM (#37359694)
I actually can’t think of any good examples. Brasilia? Chandigarh? Irvine? All seem fine relative to their neighborhood.
Re:Plan for 55,000-acre utopia dreamed by Silicon Valley eli... by krisoft on Saturday September 02, 2023 @05:09AM (#37359758)
In practice or in fictional books? If in practice I’m sure you can share a handful of examples.
Re:Plan for 55,000-acre utopia dreamed by Silicon Valley eli... by pvitz on Saturday September 02, 2023 @05:57AM (#37360032)
Sealand
Re:Plan for 55,000-acre utopia dreamed by Silicon Valley eli... by flohofwoe on Saturday September 02, 2023 @06:07AM (#37360074)
Fordlandia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fordl%C3%A2ndia

And for a really dark example:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonia_Dignidad

Also Disney's failed attempt:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EPCOT_(concept)

Finally an example that actually worked:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siemensstadt

...the project reminds me much more of the Chinese 'fake European cities' though:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/books/non-fiction/duplitecture-d...

Re:Plan for 55,000-acre utopia dreamed by Silicon Valley eli... by forth_fool on Saturday September 02, 2023 @06:17AM (#37360121)
Re:Plan for 55,000-acre utopia dreamed by Silicon Valley eli... by dd36 on Saturday September 02, 2023 @06:17AM (#37360125)