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Re:X updates Terms to allow it to use data for AI training by temporalparts on Friday September 01, 2023 @01:40PM (#37353952)
> There's no other source like that in English other than Reddit

1) Facebook Posts/Comments, 2) Instagram Posts/Comments, 3) Youtube Comments, 4) Gmail content, 5) LinkedIn Comments, 6) TikTok contents / comments

X and Reddit are definitely valuable, but they're definitely not unique. I think Meta and Google have inherent advantages because their data is not accessible to LLM competitors and they have the actual capabilities to build great LLMs.

Unless X decides to tap AI talent in China, they're going to have a REALLY hard time spinning up a competitive LLM team compared to OpenAI, Google, and Meta, which I think are the top three LLM companies in that order.

Re:X updates Terms to allow it to use data for AI training by emodendroket on Friday September 01, 2023 @01:51PM (#37354088)
Hiring a lot of experts from China sounds extremely politically challenging.
Re:X updates Terms to allow it to use data for AI training by fjfuvucucuc on Friday September 01, 2023 @05:35PM (#37356422)
China doesn't have any ai experts. Stop parroting CCP propoganda.
Re:X updates Terms to allow it to use data for AI training by emodendroket on Friday September 01, 2023 @07:14PM (#37357162)
Oh give it a rest, will you? Hiring AI "also-rans" or whatever term satisfies your sense of national chauvinism then.

For kicks I tried searching for news about "Chinese AI experts" and found the CCP has apparently infiltrated august institutions such as the Financial Times and Harvard Business Review (here, for instance: https://hbr.org/2021/02/is-china-emerging-as-the-global-lead...). Maybe you can go pester them.

Re:X updates Terms to allow it to use data for AI training by thefurdrake on Saturday September 02, 2023 @10:52AM (#37362046)
I am 100% certain that there is at least a single AI expert in China.

This is bait, right?

Re:X updates Terms to allow it to use data for AI training by fjfuvucucuc on Saturday September 02, 2023 @08:02PM (#37366541)
Of course, the issue is they don't have an ai industry. The idea that they do is a CCP talking point theyve been pushing lately. They're pumping out fake ai crap all over the internet.
Re:X updates Terms to allow it to use data for AI training by emodendroket on Saturday September 02, 2023 @09:41PM (#37366990)
That has to be the fastest I’ve seen someone concede a statement is true that they just called “CCP propaganda” a moment ago.
Re:X updates Terms to allow it to use data for AI training by jfoster on Friday September 01, 2023 @01:59PM (#37354180)
The discourse on Facebook & Instagram is significantly different than what you would find on X or Reddit, both in terms of quality & topics.
Re:X updates Terms to allow it to use data for AI training by monetus on Friday September 01, 2023 @02:06PM (#37354261)
Facebook groups has, weirdly enough, had a bunch of quality discussions similar to Reddit. Can't speak for Instagram, but FB groups are worth peeking into to follow your favorite software projects.
Re:X updates Terms to allow it to use data for AI training by nerdponx on Friday September 01, 2023 @03:41PM (#37355337)
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Re:X updates Terms to allow it to use data for AI training by loa_in_ on Saturday September 02, 2023 @03:33AM (#37359264)
Fandom/topic or hobby/writing groups on Facebook are better quality discussion venues than Reddit if you can accept seeing some very obvious instances of spam posts and spam comments.
Re:X updates Terms to allow it to use data for AI training by thefurdrake on Saturday September 02, 2023 @10:51AM (#37362033)
I haven't noticed a significant difference in discussion quality between The Platform Formerly Known As Twitter and Youtube/Reddit for most topics. Maybe I'm cynical, but the vast majority of public communication on the internet seems to be roughly the same quality in my mind.
Re:X updates Terms to allow it to use data for AI training by jfoster on Saturday September 02, 2023 @02:08PM (#37363979)
> the vast majority of public communication on the internet seems to be roughly the same quality in my mind.

I mean, could it be that it's just that the platforms you're familiar with are similar quality? There are major quality differences. Consider, for example, HN vs Instagram. Do you really see no difference in the quality of discourse, or do you just not use Instagram?

Re:X updates Terms to allow it to use data for AI training by thefurdrake on Saturday September 02, 2023 @03:16PM (#37364576)
> vast majority

By bulk/raw data volume, I'd say that the vast majority of internet communication is the same quality, yeah-- I'll stick by that assertion. That's not at odds with acknowledging there exist locations where intelligent communication happens. My position is just that the signal to noise ratio is pretty bad in the majority of places.

Re:X updates Terms to allow it to use data for AI training by freejazz on Tuesday September 05, 2023 @10:07AM (#37391838)
Not sure which way that cuts
Re:X updates Terms to allow it to use data for AI training by rapind on Friday September 01, 2023 @02:01PM (#37354209)
> 3) Youtube Comments

Is probably LLM poison.

> 4) Gmail content

Is huge but also has enormous privacy issues. Most people by default assume their emails are reasonably private, whereas most people wouldn't assume their comments on these platforms are private.

Re:X updates Terms to allow it to use data for AI training by NavinF on Friday September 01, 2023 @04:07PM (#37355632)
That totally depends on the youtube channel. The tech and project channels I follow have excellent comments, often better than HN and proggit. Eg:

https://www.youtube.com/@HyperspacePirate

https://www.youtube.com/@scottmanley

https://www.youtube.com/@3blue1brown

https://www.youtube.com/@reps

https://www.youtube.com/@AppliedScience

Re:X updates Terms to allow it to use data for AI training by boywitharupee on Friday September 01, 2023 @02:21PM (#37354451)
How is AI talent from China related?
Re:X updates Terms to allow it to use data for AI training by buzzert on Friday September 01, 2023 @02:27PM (#37354509)
I assume it’s for access and expertise into the “Sinosphere” of knowledge. Wherein the other side of the coin is the Anglosphere in the west.