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Re:A serious case for dynamic scoring (immigration) by Gareth321 on Thursday August 31, 2023 @09:21AM (#37336741)
You continue to argue discrimination is wrong. I explained that it's not wrong, prima facie. There are good reasons to discriminate. I don't think the Canadian government is serving and protecting Canadians. The Canadian government welcomed a million new migrants last year, into a country suffering one of the worst housing crises in the West. It's clear that not all Canadian immigrants are skilled, with reports that 95% of food bank service is to migrants (https://tnc.news/2023/08/08/food-bank-reports-95-of-users-no...).

I agree with a points based system, but there are clearly many structural issues to the Canadian system.

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Re:A serious case for dynamic scoring (immigration) by FredPret on Thursday August 31, 2023 @09:49AM (#37337122)
95% of food bank users are immigrants… but what % of immigrants are food bank users?

Your link also says 65% of food bank users are students.

Anecdotally, I’m an immigrant in Canada, and every other immigrant I’ve ever met is comfortably in the top half of society income-wise, with the majority in the top 10%.

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Re:A serious case for dynamic scoring (immigration) by winter_blue on Thursday August 31, 2023 @01:50PM (#37341089)
> A total of 95% of those relying on Feed Scarborough were not born in the country, while 72% had only been in Canada a year or less.

I wonder how they collected these statistics. Do food banks seriously hand out forms asking people to fill out (a) their country of birth, (b) how long they'd lived in Canada?

Conservatives and right-wing media in general have shown a proclivity towards making up false statistics and false numbers, if it advances some conservative cause. For example, fake scientific papers denying climate change, or fabricated (un)scientific papers saying that the COVID vaccine is somehow dangerous. I would not trust data someone puts forward blindly.

I agree with the sibling comment that:

> Anecdotally, I’m an immigrant in Canada, and every other immigrant I’ve ever met is comfortably in the top half of society income-wise, with the majority in the top 10%.

This is true in my case as well.

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