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Re:Australia will not force age verification due to privacy ... by threeseed on Wednesday August 30, 2023 @09:35PM (#37331439)
> Doing their best to push adults out of being able to smoke

As they absolutely should.

Australia has a free health care system and smokers are disproportionate in their use of limited resources.

Re:Australia will not force age verification due to privacy ... by PrimeMcFly on Wednesday August 30, 2023 @09:37PM (#37331453)
> As they absolutely should.

No, they shouldn't, lol. No excuse for it at all.

> Australia has a free health care system and smokers are disproportionate in their use of limited resources.

Many countries have a similar health system, and there are other solutions that don't impact liberty like taxing cigarettes and putting that money back into the health system. Which is already done of course, making your argument moot.

Re:Australia will not force age verification due to privacy ... by alwayslikethis on Wednesday August 30, 2023 @09:51PM (#37331539)
> smokers are disproportionate in their use of limited resources.

Do they?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Finance_Balance_of_Sm...

This seems to suggest by killing the smokers earlier, the government avoids paying expensive pensions, among other things people need later in life.

Obviously I don't support smoking, just nitpicking here.

Re:Australia will not force age verification due to privacy ... by threeseed on Wednesday August 30, 2023 @10:24PM (#37331758)
In Australia at least the biggest issue with the health sector is the lack of talented staff e.g. nurses.

Smokers despite being a net-positive contributor to the government's tax revenue doesn't change that they are a net-negative drain on society.

Re:Australia will not force age verification due to privacy ... by stubish on Wednesday August 30, 2023 @11:05PM (#37331983)
The first claim in the article states that early death and taxation that is the cost saving (and other claims refute that). Taxation is probably the major method of discouraging cigarette usage. So even if you accept the argument that smokers are paying their way through taxes and dying young, they only do so because of onerous government policies.