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Re:EV Chargers Should Be Dumber by vel0city on Wednesday August 30, 2023 @02:52PM (#37327055)
What is the solution?
Re:EV Chargers Should Be Dumber by jsight on Wednesday August 30, 2023 @06:04PM (#37329745)
Really simple outlets with builtin power monitors, cellular for management and billing, bluetooth for mesh connectivity between multiple units, and bluetooth for customer connectivity for activation. Cost ~$400 for a 240V unit.

https://www.orangecharger.com/product/orange-outlet-620

Re:EV Chargers Should Be Dumber by vel0city on Wednesday August 30, 2023 @06:16PM (#37329885)
That doesn't sound very dumb, that sounds quite complicated. Bluetooth for customer connectivity? So I'll still need an app...
Re:EV Chargers Should Be Dumber by jsight on Wednesday August 30, 2023 @10:34PM (#37331818)
Well, it can't be completely dumb and still support billing. There are several competing factors here:

- They want to support billing - which requires network access, at least for the station itself

- They want to minimize the cost of the station both up front and maintenance. Fewer cables and accessories (eg, card readers) helps a lot here

- Much of their target audience is inside of parking garages where cell reception can be spotty. This means mesh is a must and bluetooth for client connectivity is best.

- They need to have power metering built-in and there are related regulatory concerns due to usage based billing

All of this means that it can't be a truly dumb device. What they've come up with is essentially the lowest cost solution that can possibly work.

Re:EV Chargers Should Be Dumber by vel0city on Thursday August 31, 2023 @12:16AM (#37332398)
If it can't truly be a dumb device, maybe you shouldn't be telling people its a "dumb" device.

Hey guys, this thing is "green". Well, we couldn't actually paint it green, so it's blue, but that's as close as we could get it!