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Re:On (My) Caste by hef19898 on Wednesday August 30, 2023 @02:41PM (#37326883)
Yes, because history showed us that equal societies, compared to centemporary pears, fare muchuch worse than those discriminating. Or rather not.
Re:On (My) Caste by crop_rotation on Wednesday August 30, 2023 @02:45PM (#37326938)
I am not getting your point, if you were making any. Regardless of what history shows, almost everyone will agree that we must have equal opportunities for all people, for a humane society.
Re:On (My) Caste by hef19898 on Wednesday August 30, 2023 @02:52PM (#37327062)
Including the civil sector? Enforced by law, if discrination isn't going away by itself? Yes, I am all for that!
Re:On (My) Caste by kaycey2022 on Wednesday August 30, 2023 @02:56PM (#37327133)
Equality is the prerogative of the government. Why do you want equal share in someone's private property? This is what reservations in the private sector mean. Someone takes all the risk, and works their ass off to establish a business and you come in with demands of equality in what someone else has made.
Re:On (My) Caste by hef19898 on Wednesday August 30, 2023 @03:00PM (#37327214)
I want discrmination, of any shape, form and kond and for all reasons, to go away in the private sector as well. Your, and my, personal freedom stop where someone elses begins. And that explicitly includes caste based discrimination, among all other forms.
Re:On (My) Caste by deadbeeves on Wednesday August 30, 2023 @04:17PM (#37328380)
Affirmative action does not eliminate discrimination, it enforces discrimination up to an arbitrarily defined standard.

Suppose you're applying to a company that's posted 10 openings and has already filled 7 of them, and that you belong to category A, and there's three more candidates who belong to category B. Suppose further that it can be objectively determined that you're a better fit for any of the openings than any of the other candidates, but the company has already filled its category A quota. You will be rejected because of your category, and the less capable candidates will be accepted also because of their category.

Note that it doesn't matter how the categories are defined in my example. Maybe you belong to a privileged (in the social justice sense) class, but it's equally possible that you belong to a disadvantaged class and the inept candidates belong to a privileged class.

Re:On (My) Caste by kaycey2022 on Thursday August 31, 2023 @09:28AM (#37336847)
> Your, and my, personal freedom stop where someone else begins.

Basically arbitrary rule. Someone else's personal freedom can begin anywhere according to this statement. It can even begin in your home, doesn't matter whether you live alone or not.

Re:On (My) Caste by Manuel_D on Wednesday August 30, 2023 @03:11PM (#37327405)
Equal societies indeed make better use of human capital than societies that discriminate and waste otherwise valuable skills. But equality is not the same thing as equity.