Except for some edge cases, what else is the use of a 3,000kg 6m truck when it is transporting between 1 and 4 people except to compensate?

The point is that the compensating / micropenis jokes have been beating a dead horse for at least 10 years at this point. It's boring, it's embarrassing and it takes away from your message when you pepper them into your speech.

I disagree. At least in The Netherlands, these vehicles are a classic “mid life crisis mobile”. People compensating for something by buying an outrageous vehicle. So the “compensating joke” I’m making is in my opinion at least 50% truth.

I am not making a claim about the truthiness of the "joke". I'm saying it's old, not funny, and frankly annoying. And, to be clear, I have no stake in defending large vehicle ownership; I'm just saying you will elicit more agreement and fewer eye-rolls if you drop the "compensating" joke.

I still disagree.

A completely factual statement like “my daily observations support the theory that sales of large pick-up trucks in The Netherlands have grown, while I can not observe a matching growth in business development that could explain the increased need for such vehicles” would be read by exactly no one.

A joke based in truth catches people’s attention and draws them to read essentially the same thing I said above.

A rhetorical device, sure. But we are on a discussion forum here, not in an economics paper.

> I still disagree.

Have you measured the penis size of every large vehicle owner, published your findings, and had them peer reviewed?

What the hell are comments like this doing on HN? Please take your phallic insecurity and go away.

It’s just wrong. If I think of men likely to have a micropenis it’s going to correlate strongly with genetic or developmental issues. Not the things exactly with track with being able to afford or make great use of some imposing pickup truck.

I know a family where every man is built like a brick shithouse and ain’t compensating for shit and every man has owned at least one truck. Big vehicles fit big people and carry big things that big people lift into them.

The difference is that such men are just entitled to use such things without being mocked. Whereas a man with a small dick using such things, or a man with any sort of socially contemptible trait using such things, is mockable. Don’t they know their place?

I’m not sure I understand your point. But yes, if you have a construction company and you buy a huge pick-up I still think you might be better off with a van but at least I see your point in buying the pick-up. If you are a family of 4 whose biggest load is the weekly groceries, I absolutely think you are not entitled to drive around a tank-like behemoth, especially on the small roads in Dutch communities.

> I’m not sure I understand your point.

I’m pretty sure you do, because the poster is pretty specific. You make statements around micropenises and the required compensation for them that are incredibly toxic. The whole meme is dead, yet you persist in continuing with it. The poster is not questioning your assessment of the suitability of owning these vehicles, as you are no doubt aware, they are questioning your use of toxic language to make your point.

There are better and more eloquent ways of making your point. There is no need to shame a bunch of people that are born a certain way. Do you also make blanket statements about people of colour? LGBTQ+ folk?

Be a better human.

This will be my final reaction in this thread. I’m only shaming people who for no reason buy an unreasonable vehicle thereby actively destroying our climate and risking our children’s life.

The fact you use penis size to shame people, and refuse to see how that is wrong says more about you as a human than is does about people buying the cars you decry.

It's not men with unreasonable vehicles who are shamed by being compared to men with Micropenis. It's men with Micropenis that you shame and villify by comparing them to men who destroy our climate and risk our children's life.

Saying that men with large cars are bad because they destroy our climate and risk our children's life is a wholesome and agreeable notion. It shames people for their actions regardless of what bodies they have.

How do you explain the women who drive these vehicles?

I’ve never seen a woman drive these (in The Netherlands). It’s always middle aged men.

Status symbol of intimidation. I can afford this because I'm something. Step aside. You get to telegraph your success everywhere. Especially at work. When you telegraph success it begets more success. Shiney door handles, wheels, and badges that say "Platinum."

I need to tow shit and haul building supplies. The base model tows more, gets better milage, and handles better...and costs a hell of a lot less.

They survive the crash.

Yes. And my 8 year old son on his bike dies. Serves him right, he should’ve gotten himself one of those RAM 1500’s as well.

Wonder why.