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Re:ISPs Should Not Police Online Speech – No Matter How Awfu... by Hamuko on Wednesday August 30, 2023 @05:37AM (#37319513)
I don't like the term CSAM because I've seen it lead to such tortured and misleading terms as "CG-CSAM" (computer-generated child sexual abuse material), suggesting that an AI model generating images of naked children is committing sexual abuse. The already-existing concept of "simulated child pornography" actually describes it better.
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Re:ISPs Should Not Police Online Speech – No Matter How Awfu... by bemusedthrow75 on Wednesday August 30, 2023 @08:30AM (#37321016)
That material is illegal in many jurisdictions for the reason that it encourages and is often found coincident with real CSAM. This is common sense.

CG-CSAM also covers photoshop editing, I think.

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Re:ISPs Should Not Police Online Speech – No Matter How Awfu... by Hamuko on Wednesday August 30, 2023 @09:31AM (#37321877)
Do you have sources to back up the fact that "it encourages and is often found coincident with real CSAM"? You can't just claim that it's common sense that an AI-generated image of a child is encouraging real child abuse. Generative AI hasn't even been around for long enough to be part of common knowledge.
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Re:ISPs Should Not Police Online Speech – No Matter How Awfu... by bemusedthrow75 on Wednesday August 30, 2023 @09:59AM (#37322282)
Again: it's you that has put the specific "AI" projection onto "CG".

As I say, this term appears to be used in the past broadly to include the kind of 3D animations that appear in conventional porn adverts, and also to face-swap and other Photoshop-type edits.

All I can say is that prosecutions in the UK for example have often mentioned such material alongside conventionally shared material.

I don't think I've read about any prosecutions where fake material was the only material justifying prosecution. But I could have missed that.

I have absolutely no interest in getting into the rest of the argument, which is tedious and IMO kind of obvious on many grounds.

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