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Re:The end of cool small cars by DoingIsLearning on Wednesday August 30, 2023 @04:41AM (#37319206)
The interesting thing to me is that all the 'rational' arguments given by SUV buyers (more storage, easy of entry, larger interior space) are without exception much better in any family MPV instead of SUVs that invariably are also pretty shit off-road vehicles.

Literally just more weight and waste, zero function other than satisfying the buyers reptilian brain.

Re:The end of cool small cars by Aromasin on Wednesday August 30, 2023 @09:35AM (#37321932)
Agreed. I've been a passenger in plenty of them; many of them don't seem any bigger on the inside than a hatchback, with very similar boot space. It's all pointless, superficial bodywork that makes the demand for them seem even more egregious to me.
Re:The end of cool small cars by GoToRO on Wednesday August 30, 2023 @02:09PM (#37326368)
Because the space is under the car, between the wheels. I was surprised too.
Re:The end of cool small cars by neuralRiot on Wednesday August 30, 2023 @04:46PM (#37328854)
Have you been on a BMW X6? I swear there’s less interior space in it than in a 3-series, the trunk is almost at armpit level and a mazda 3 can load bigger things. Same for the mercedes GLC. They’re the contemporary version of the hummer.
Re:The end of cool small cars by arethuza on Thursday August 31, 2023 @05:21AM (#37334510)
Coupe style SUVs like the X6 must be one of the stupidest car design fashions ever. And I say that as a recovered X5 owner....
Re:The end of cool small cars by arethuza on Wednesday August 30, 2023 @11:14AM (#37323452)
I recently had my car written off (a small SUV) and due to lack of availability of replacements I replaced it with a similar sized hatchback. Now I find myself thinking why on earth I had an SUV - I'm unlikely to purchase another one as the hatchback is cheaper, roomier inside and handles much better.
Re:The end of cool small cars by vikingerik on Wednesday August 30, 2023 @11:36AM (#37323777)
There are small 'subcompact' crossover SUVs that get the best of both of those worlds. I've owned a Nissan Kicks and Honda HR-V. Both are marketed as SUVs but really function as roomy hatchbacks (lightweight, tight handling, front-wheel drive), along with others in the category. Very practical compromise between cost/efficiency and size/utility. Generally the only thing that cars in this class don't do is tow.
Re:The end of cool small cars by arethuza on Wednesday August 30, 2023 @12:03PM (#37324131)
So apart from being a bit higher up - what is the benefit of the SUV?
Re:The end of cool small cars by datavirtue on Wednesday August 30, 2023 @05:33PM (#37329432)
You can tow a small camper. ??
Re:The end of cool small cars by southwesterly on Wednesday August 30, 2023 @06:05PM (#37329765)
You can look down on the plebs? :/
Re:The end of cool small cars by pandaman on Wednesday August 30, 2023 @09:19PM (#37331335)
It's not a bit higher up, it's quite a lot and makes a lot of difference in adverse weather (like getting water in your engine or not getting water in there and driving safely through a flash flood, for example). Also the visibility is quite different, especially at night, due to low beams covering much less space in front of a low car [1][2]. The higher stance allows for large tires and smoother ride. Getting in and out of the car, especially with children in seats is much easier.

This is without getting into the actual instances of hatchbacks and SUVs on the market. There is more choice and variety in SUVs.

1. https://www.iihs.org/ratings/vehicle/toyota/prius-4-door-hat...

2. https://www.iihs.org/ratings/vehicle/toyota/rav4-4-door-suv/...

Re:The end of cool small cars by simfree on Thursday August 31, 2023 @12:09AM (#37332349)
Sounds like the low beams are mis-aimed if they are generating a much larger light pool and likely dazzling other drivers on the road at night.
Re:The end of cool small cars by pandaman on Thursday August 31, 2023 @08:16AM (#37336004)
I am pretty sure IIHS is setting up lights according to the DOT regulations when they test. As the report says: "The low beams never exceeded glare limits".

It's simple geometry - headlights at the same angle will intersect with the ground farther when they are higher off the ground.

Re:The end of cool small cars by arethuza on Thursday August 31, 2023 @09:23AM (#37336773)
But does that have any noticeable impact on the driving experience - can't say I've ever noticed any difference in headlight lighting between SUVs and "normal" cars?
Re:The end of cool small cars by pandaman on Thursday August 31, 2023 @10:23AM (#37337613)
It depends, makes a difference for me as I like to be aware of the surroundings. Seeing that some people drive while looking into their phones, I figure, it may not matter for everyone.