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Re:ISPs Should Not Police Online Speech – No Matter How Awfu... by yesco on Tuesday August 29, 2023 @10:02PM (#37316762)
Since when did the Nazis become synonymous with being anti-free speech? Their infamy arises from the holocaust, they aren't mythological demons, whose every action is the definition immoral. If we are now using associations as a lazy excuse to abandon the principle foundations of liberalism, then is banning China from the internet acceptable to everyone? While we are at it, why not just ban all discussion of Communism too? The USSR literally erased people for saying the wrong things, nothing good could come from that right? Actually what about most of, or perhaps all of Europe? They ban guns after all, and you know the Nazis did that too right? Before suppressing people.

To the Nazis perspective, Jews were like demons, capable of any evil, and so subversive and threatening that even literature sourced from them was considered radioactive in a sense. So while I hate to play the reverse card on this, I truthfully consider your perspective just as shallow, and far more dangerous. You see unlike the Nazis of today, your perspective is more popular and politically actionable.

In fact I genuinely consider, from the bottom of my heart, people such as yourself, who lack integrity, to be a far more realistic threat to freedom of speech than the shadows of a dead political ideology.

Also KiwiFarms had nothing to do with Nazis, they were further down the slippery slope than that.

Re:ISPs Should Not Police Online Speech – No Matter How Awfu... by whatshisface on Tuesday August 29, 2023 @10:41PM (#37317022)
>Since when did the Nazis become synonymous with being anti-free speech?

When they uhh... eliminated free speech in Germany?

Re:ISPs Should Not Police Online Speech – No Matter How Awfu... by mr_toad on Tuesday August 29, 2023 @11:09PM (#37317198)
> Since when did the Nazis become synonymous with being anti-free speech?

Maybe when they started burning giant piles of books?

Re:ISPs Should Not Police Online Speech – No Matter How Awfu... by yesco on Wednesday August 30, 2023 @01:55AM (#37318195)
Did you read beyond the first sentence of my comment? I feel like I provided enough context for what I was getting at.

I just meant that Nazi Germany, in comparison to any other authortarian regime, weren't anything special when it came to censorship, other than the racial focus making them easy to hate.

If we are trying to justify censorship as an effort to "protect" Freedom of Speech, then logically we would need to censor the more popular anti free speech political ideologies as well, and with higher priority even! But that wouldn't be free speech anymore would it?

The reality of it is that Nazis only get censored because they are unpopular, a dead political ideology. There is no nation that supports it, and none that can defend it, it's an easy target. People who want to censor Nazis aren't doing it to protect Free Speech, they are doing it because they don't like them, the argument is fundumentally dishonest.

If you just want to censor people you don't like, then you don't support Freedom of Speech. Just like every other autoritarian regime that banned whatever they disliked. The line is very clear here.