Re:ISPs Should Not Police Online Speech – No Matter How Awfu...
by hattmall on Tuesday August 29, 2023 @09:31PM
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Nazi's etc, aren't protected by the social contract... They are protected by the constitution. That's the ENTIRE point of freedom of speech. It's literally the government protecting the right of people to say things that people find objectionable.
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Re:ISPs Should Not Police Online Speech – No Matter How Awfu...
by wredue on Tuesday August 29, 2023 @09:35PM
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Freedom is speech protects people from retaliation by the government. It is not and was never meant to protect the infringing upon other people’s right to a good life.
Do you have any more alt-right copy pasta bullshit to spread?
Re:ISPs Should Not Police Online Speech – No Matter How Awfu...
by yesco on Tuesday August 29, 2023 @10:24PM
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I think people who consider Freedom of Speech, the principle, to be exclusively a government thing, are stupider than people who think the right to Free Speech applies to everything. Wonder why this misaligned perspective seems so popular with pseudo-intellectuals these days.
Re:ISPs Should Not Police Online Speech – No Matter How Awfu...
by bee_rider on Wednesday August 30, 2023 @12:03AM
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The grandparent comment explicitly draws a distinction between the social contract and the Constitution, and explicitly points to the Constitution as the mechanism that apparently protects Nazis, specifically pointing out that they aren’t talking about the social contract.
Re:ISPs Should Not Police Online Speech – No Matter How Awfu...
by EarlKing on Wednesday August 30, 2023 @12:30AM
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The freedom of speech is a guarantee to the people that they may exercise free thought and expression and not be subject to the use of force or fraud against them by any party, whether a state or private actor. The use of force or fraud against someone for speech you dislike does not magically cease to be a civil rights violation by virtue of being applied to someone you personally dislike. Anyone with even a cursory knowledge of history is well aware of intrusions by actors public and private to suppress speech that threatened their interests.
Put another way: All men have a natural right to the freedom of thought and expression, and no one cares what dead old men thought when they drafted their particular laws. This is about what matters to us here and now. The proletariat has a need for public debate free of interference from the bourgeoisie and bourgeoisie-adjacent. Period. Full stop.