I would also like to share what I discovered while researching the Kiwi Farms last year, when shit hit the fan.

The claim that Kiwi Farms is dedicated to driving transpeople to suicide was started by the ex-founders of Trans LifeLine, Nina Chaubal and Greta Gustava (at least based on the evidence I've been able to find). Kiwi Farms helped expose that Nina and Greta were embezzling money and that Trans LifeLine almost never picked up the phones, which ultimately resulted in them being ousted by their board of directors[0]. (As an aside, Kiwi Farms has also helped expose zoophiles and get them arrested.)

Around the time Kiwi Farms started looking into Trans LifeLine and documentjng their lack of service, a trans woman, Elizabeth, commited suicide after her calls were unanswered. Nina and Greta exploited Elizabeth's suicide and tried to get Kiwi Farms shut down[1]. Elizabeth's widow publicly stated that Kiwi Farms was not to blame and asked them to stop using her death for their own gain. They refused and blocked Elizabeth's widow [2].

A close friend of theirs, who I'm not sure if I can name, got involved and started using her @google.com email to pressure companies into dropping Kiwi Farms. They are still the main person campaigning against Kiwi Farms to this day.

[0] https://archive.ph/m1sfd

[1] https://web.archive.org/web/20190412085911/https://www.faceb... (this link is finicky and doesn't load reliably)

[2] https://www.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/5d5qgb/tran...

^ Kiwifarmer astroturfing. None of this is true.

Trans people are their favorite victims and have been for years.

The reasons for this are partially right wing culture wars, partially homophobia, but mostly because trans people are easy targets.

They're often extremely vulnerable to being doxxed, since er they may not be out to everyone. They tend to be young, emotionally vulnerable, and without a safety net.

Kiwis pick targets who can't fight back because they think it's funny.

kiwifarms admin admitted to this too. he says that he seeks out mentally vulnerable people to harass because they make funny reactions when tormented. he calls them "lolcows". the first victim of the site was a severely autistic person. kiwifarms was originally called "CWCki Forums" after the first victim's initials

> kiwifarms admin admitted to this too.

I have a hard time finding that, could you link me to it/a screenshot of it?

It's on the kiwifarms homepage

>Lolcows are people with eccentric behavior who can be "milked" for entertainment.

the "milking" is harassment

I took the milking as collecting info/discussing it, rather than harassment, as that is more in line with their stated policy of no contanct.

> The claim that Kiwi Farms is dedicated to driving transpeople to suicide was started by [specific people]

Nice strawman. There are a huge number of different people who have independently arrived at the conclusion that KF exists to bully queer and autistic people, often to suicide, because it's a consistent pattern; the idea that this concept can be attributed to just one or a handful of people is wilfully misleading. Anyone who's been online long enough in the right circles will eventually know of multiple people who have been targets of the site, and it's obvious what those targets have in common.

> There are a huge number of different people who have independently arrived at the conclusion that KF exists to bully queer and autistic people, often to suicide, because it's a consistent pattern

It's a convenient thing to accuse them of considering that it's already "widely accepted". The same person involved in this was also behind #DropKiwiFarms. They've been trying to blame Kiwi Farms for numerous suicides since 2016, and the "victim count" changes every time the story is told.

"we have victims on both sides" is not the W you think it is

Here the Glenn Greenwald post from the time of the Kiwifarms debacle is worth referencing.

https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1567292900312064000

>But the worst is watching people whose job title in corporate HR Departments is "journalist" take the lead in agitating for censorship. They exploit the platforms of corporate giants to pioneer increasingly dangerous means of banning dissenters. These are the authoritarians.

Its especially despicable if it happens consciously as a means to an end. Signaling towards a common enemy is highly profitable in a tribalism ridden society. Doing this despite an understanding of the risk it entails can hardly be described as anything but malice.

I can only think of imploring people to read Meerloos "Rape of the mind" about the existential risk totalitarian systems pose. And even if someone already went full Stalinist thinking the ends justify the means, its worth mentioning that its a self destructive delusion. It cant work and the revolution eats its children reliably. Be it the SA or the red guard, they always end as the victims of the monster they created. Unfortunately the rest of society is then stuck in the dystopian nightmare these delusional maniacs created.

edit: On this note, Arte recently had a documentary about the Chinese gulag system https://www.arte.tv/en/videos/106702-001-A/china-s-concentra...

edit1: The only one saving you from this fate is yourself. So maybe dont put it off till you are in prison.

>In the same text, Martsinkevich said he’d finally read Alexander Solzhenitsyn's “The Gulag Archipelago” for the first time. “If I’d read ‘Gulag Archipelago’ before I sat down to write ‘Restrukt,’ I wouldn’t have even started it!” he confessed.

https://meduza.io/en/feature/2020/09/17/in-the-end-it-doesn-...

Linking to Twitter doesn't work very well these days. Users who aren't logged in don't see the thread, only the single tweet you link to.

I put it as a quote in the post. Would be great if you could recommend a better alternative though, especially as even watching a tweet was disabled for a time.

Their personal information is plastered all over Kiwifarms so it's pretty easy to find.