Re:The Dog Who Served on Both Sides of the American Revolution
by rgrieselhuber on Monday August 28, 2023 @07:51PM
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I’ve always thought the word Revolution was the wrong word for this war. Other revolutions have focused on destroying monarchy, the church, landowners, etc. but this was none of that. It was a war for independence.
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Re:The Dog Who Served on Both Sides of the American Revolution
by Projectiboga on Monday August 28, 2023 @08:33PM
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The founders called it the War for Independence.
Re:The Dog Who Served on Both Sides of the American Revolution
by rgrieselhuber on Monday August 28, 2023 @08:46PM
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I’m not surprised, it wouldn’t have made sense to call it a revolution. I do wonder when the less accurate phrase was first applied and who was responsible.
Re:The Dog Who Served on Both Sides of the American Revolution
by cmeacham98 on Monday August 28, 2023 @11:21PM
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Merriam-Webster defines revolution as (and I would agree this is how I see it used):
> a fundamental change in political organization.
> especially : the overthrow or renunciation of one government or ruler and the substitution of another by the governed
I have no idea if that definition was in use in the 18th century, but in the 21st I think it's accurate enough terminology.
Re:The Dog Who Served on Both Sides of the American Revolution
by taneq on Monday August 28, 2023 @11:22PM
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I don't think the incumbent government ever calls an insurrection a revolution, does it? That's the word the victors use for it after they gain power.
Re:The Dog Who Served on Both Sides of the American Revolution
by aketchum on Monday August 28, 2023 @07:56PM
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there was a revolution to "overthrow" the monarchy - just a local overthrow instead of a empire wide revolution
Re:The Dog Who Served on Both Sides of the American Revolution
by rgrieselhuber on Monday August 28, 2023 @07:59PM
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There is a big difference between throw off and overthrow.
Re:The Dog Who Served on Both Sides of the American Revolution
by pavlov on Tuesday August 29, 2023 @01:03AM
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Colonial independence wars often have multiple factions where some are advocating a nationalist approach that mostly preserves the existing institutions, and others want to radically redesign government at the same time.
If the latter groups get the upper hand, it’s called a revolution. And the Americans certainly fit the bill because they set out to write a federal constitution and bill of rights that bore no resemblance to the English system.
Re:The Dog Who Served on Both Sides of the American Revolution
by ffhhttt on Tuesday August 29, 2023 @03:27AM
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> bore no resemblance to the English system.
Except the Bill of Rights being based on it’s English equivalent and multiple other documents and customs in the English constitution.