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Re:Cleaning Up Dead Bodies in AWS IAM by happytoexplain on Monday August 28, 2023 @12:13PM (#37296396)
>Discover why conventional CSPM/CIEM tools fall short in cleaning up AWS IAM, and explore a better solution with Noq and IAMbic

We live in a noun hell where every technical topic has a high barrier to entry that makes it hard to casually learn anything. It's difficult to be even a traditional generalist in this ecosystem, and yet the market treats people as if the only way to be considered valuable is to be a super generalist (depth + breadth).

Re:Cleaning Up Dead Bodies in AWS IAM by beckler on Monday August 28, 2023 @12:29PM (#37296664)
Acronyms are the worst.

I guess people do it to sound cool or something, but I once maintained a legacy project that had an acronym for a name. Not a single person working at the entire company knew what the acronym originally meant, and of course, it was never documented.

Re:Cleaning Up Dead Bodies in AWS IAM by taeric on Monday August 28, 2023 @12:40PM (#37296851)
Acronyms are no different from words, in this regard. How many people remember/know why your storage is called a drive? A computer used to be a person. Why is the company Stripe named that?

Then there are backronyms and names that used to be acronyms, but technically aren't anymore.

Re:Cleaning Up Dead Bodies in AWS IAM by colinrand on Monday August 28, 2023 @12:37PM (#37296810)
Analyst firms (ie Gartner) are a big driver of this too. Couple that with the start up / VC model which needs to create new 'categories' to demonstrate differentiation, and you have a total mess.
Re:Cleaning Up Dead Bodies in AWS IAM by unethical_ban on Monday August 28, 2023 @01:02PM (#37297200)
I work for a vendor that sells a CNAPP. I've worked with this product before and it's been around for several years.

Until last week, I had never heard or read the term CNAPP.

"CNAPP is a term first coined by Gartner in 2021 to describe an all-in-one platform that unifies security and compliance capabilities to prevent, detect, and respond to cloud security threats. A CNAPP integrates multiple cloud security solutions that have been traditionally siloed in a single user interface, making it easier for organizations to protect their entire cloud application footprint."

Thanks, Gartner. What a racket they have as a self-ordained arbiter of market segments.

Re:Cleaning Up Dead Bodies in AWS IAM by colechristensen on Monday August 28, 2023 @12:47PM (#37296969)
A long time ago I worked on a defense program called "XMS 3000", hilariously, it was explained to me that this literally did not mean anything. They needed a name and somebody came up with this to sound cool.
Re:Cleaning Up Dead Bodies in AWS IAM by gold7777 on Monday August 28, 2023 @02:57PM (#37298847)
15 years ago some interns where I now work created a spreadsheet and named it an acronym of their first names. That project has since developed into a fairly important system with a front end and database. They kept the name the same, of course.
Re:Cleaning Up Dead Bodies in AWS IAM by rustyminnow on Monday August 28, 2023 @12:24PM (#37296557)
You don't need to know the acronyms to understand the article. Use context clues to infer that the author's point is "traditional tools don't solve the problem I am about to present". They even expand the acronyms later in the article.

Besides, most such acronyms for classes of security tools don't actually mean much. They just represent the current flavor of the week in the security arms race.

Re:Cleaning Up Dead Bodies in AWS IAM by n6h6 on Monday August 28, 2023 @01:45PM (#37297802)
> They even expand the acronyms later in the article.

That's the OPPOSITE of how you're supposed to use acronyms. If you're going to spell it out anyway, why not do it the first time you talk about it like you're supposed to?

Re:Cleaning Up Dead Bodies in AWS IAM by cj on Monday August 28, 2023 @12:30PM (#37296670)
FWIW I’ve worked extensively in AWS IAM for over a decade and have never heard of half the acronyms in the article. Don’t be intimidated.
Re:Cleaning Up Dead Bodies in AWS IAM by pc86 on Monday August 28, 2023 @12:57PM (#37297137)
My condolences.
Re:Cleaning Up Dead Bodies in AWS IAM by securiy on Monday August 28, 2023 @07:55PM (#37301808)
Crap, I didn't know these acronyms before either and now I've turned into a Gartner shill :sob:
Re:Cleaning Up Dead Bodies in AWS IAM by mdaniel on Monday August 28, 2023 @01:39PM (#37297735)
There is a middle ground, if the author cares enough: the `<abbr>`[1] and `<acronym>`[2] markup tags were designed to solve those problems in an unobtrusive way. It makes folks unfamiliar able to hover-over (or long-press, I believe) the dotted underlined terms to know, and stays out of the way for those who already know them

1: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/ab...

2: (evidently deprecated but still parsed) https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/ac...