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Re:Silicon Valley “Pronatalists” Oppose Remote Work Despite ... by frob on Sunday August 27, 2023 @10:23AM (#37283012)
I think it's really telling that every "pronatalist" in this piece is a man. It is quite easy to go around saying we need more babies when your contribution to the process is having sex, not actually growing the child and birthing it. Or, in Musk's case, leaving a string of them throughout the world whom you don't raise.
Re:Silicon Valley “Pronatalists” Oppose Remote Work Despite ... by IG_Semmelweiss on Sunday August 27, 2023 @10:29AM (#37283065)
One could argue that , for Musk case at least, he does a great job fostering babies.

What matters is not one's own babies. But "more babies".

The more wealth created, the more babies can be supported with the wealth. Musk in particular has created many high paying jibs that are undoubtedly anchoring solid families with strong economic foundation.

For Musk, its a prohibitive opportunity cost for him to have babies of his own vs enabling hundres of others doing the same.

Musk will not be the face of a fertility campaign. Musk is not the paragon of virtue. But he's helping support tons of families have their babies

Re:Silicon Valley “Pronatalists” Oppose Remote Work Despite ... by frob on Sunday August 27, 2023 @10:46AM (#37283216)
> For Musk, its a prohibitive opportunity cost for him to have babies of his own vs enabling hundres of others doing the same.

The guy can almost field a basketball team with his kids from a string of different women. He obviously has no qualms having kids. Raising them on the other hand, seems to be too much of an opportunity cost to the self-proclaimed titan of industry.

Re:Silicon Valley “Pronatalists” Oppose Remote Work Despite ... by bhouston on Sunday August 27, 2023 @10:27AM (#37283049)
It is way worse that than for Musk. One of his kids came out as transgender and then Musk went full on anti-transgender and has made being anti-trans much more socially acceptable as a result. That can give your kid trauma for real. That your dad, in response to you coming out, goes around actively hurting the transgender community in real ways.
Re:Silicon Valley “Pronatalists” Oppose Remote Work Despite ... by SomethingNew2 on Sunday August 27, 2023 @10:26AM (#37283040)
Men also help raise the child over their lifetime.
Re:Silicon Valley “Pronatalists” Oppose Remote Work Despite ... by Someone1234 on Sunday August 27, 2023 @10:39AM (#37283158)
In general, yes. Specifically the people we're discussion here: No.
Re:Silicon Valley “Pronatalists” Oppose Remote Work Despite ... by llm_thr on Sunday August 27, 2023 @10:27AM (#37283047)
I'm sorry about your father.
Re:Silicon Valley “Pronatalists” Oppose Remote Work Despite ... by frob on Sunday August 27, 2023 @10:39AM (#37283164)
Literally go fuck yourself and die in a fire you worthless piece of shit.
Re:Silicon Valley “Pronatalists” Oppose Remote Work Despite ... by llm_thr on Sunday August 27, 2023 @10:46AM (#37283221)
What made you say that?