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Re:No app, no entry: How the digital world is failing the no... by scarface_74 on Thursday August 24, 2023 @11:30AM (#37249984)
> “You should just get a smartphone” is an unreasonable position to take and policy should actively discourage outcomes based on that position. It’s an accessibility and “fail safe|gracefully” issue.

Is you must have an ID to get on plain also unreasonable? A modern smart phone (at least an iPhone) has all sorts of affordances that make life easier for the disabled.

Re:No app, no entry: How the digital world is failing the no... by zabzonk on Thursday August 24, 2023 @11:39AM (#37250137)
Yes, of course - an iphone is so much cheaper and easier to use than a passport or a paper boarding pass.
Re:No app, no entry: How the digital world is failing the no... by JoeAltmaier on Thursday August 24, 2023 @11:47AM (#37250249)
Wow, a $1000 dollar phone is cheaper than carrying a paper document? I guess that logic escapes me.
Re:No app, no entry: How the digital world is failing the no... by zabzonk on Thursday August 24, 2023 @11:48AM (#37250266)
I meant it to be sarcasm, obviously failed
Re:No app, no entry: How the digital world is failing the no... by JoeAltmaier on Thursday August 24, 2023 @11:54AM (#37250365)
Yeah sarcasm generally fails. Sometimes I put <sarcasm>...</sarcasm> :)
Re:No app, no entry: How the digital world is failing the no... by tharmas on Thursday August 24, 2023 @12:49PM (#37251247)
Sarcasm fails sometimes because there are indeed some people that genuinely hold such ridiculous views.
Re:No app, no entry: How the digital world is failing the no... by stalfosknight on Thursday August 24, 2023 @02:10PM (#37252510)
A brand new iPhone can be purchased for as little as $429.
Re:No app, no entry: How the digital world is failing the no... by SoftTalker on Thursday August 24, 2023 @11:46AM (#37250231)
I actually think it's unreasonable, and it never used to be required for a domestic flight. If you had a ticket, you could get on the plane. Same as trains and buses still work at least in most places.
Re:No app, no entry: How the digital world is failing the no... by toomuchtodo on Thursday August 24, 2023 @12:11PM (#37250628)
> you must have an ID to get on plane

You don’t. You can show up at a TSA checkpoint without ID and they’ll identity proof you on the spot. As an identity nerd, I’ve done it just to try it to experience and confirm the TSA’s process.

https://www.tsa.gov/travel/frequently-asked-questions/i-forg...

With that said, a physical credential and a smartphone are wildly different from an accessibility perspective. You can get a REAL ID compliant state credential for under $100. Poor comparison.