Re:Apple Announces Plans to Initiate Dividend and Share Repu...
by nandemo on Tuesday March 20, 2012 @01:31AM
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The quote describes stock grants and stock options for managers (and employees). That's orthogonal to the question of dividends vs buybacks.
An individual investor might prefer dividends for tax reasons, while a mutual fund might prefer buybacks. But other things being equal, both sorts of investors don't want unnecessary dilution.
Re:Apple Announces Plans to Initiate Dividend and Share Repu...
by karamazov on Monday March 19, 2012 @01:29PM
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This is an interesting point of view, but the article you linked to misses a fundamental point of the "golden parachute" offered to CEO's: if a leading executive messes up, you want to incentivize them to come forward, not to cover up their mistake for fear of losing their jobs.
Is a golden parachute ideal for this? Perhaps not, as it does introduce some strange incentives overall; but I'm not aware of anything better.
Re:Apple Announces Plans to Initiate Dividend and Share Repu...
by beambot on Monday March 19, 2012 @01:53PM
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I have no idea how golden parachutes relate to a discussion of dividends vs. stock buybacks. Enlighten me?
Re:Apple Announces Plans to Initiate Dividend and Share Repu...
by karamazov on Monday March 19, 2012 @02:36PM
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Parent's article discusses why stock buybacks damage shareholder value, by referencing the ability of executives to generate shares and sell them on the open market, and thereby dilute existing owners without their consent. (Note that I'm summarizing the argument, not agreeing with it.)
Dividends offer _true_ returns:
They send a message to shareholders that you want them to stay as shareholders and are rewarding them for their committment to your company. Its a reminder to shareholders that the business investments you have made have actually worked and the reward is that cash can be returned to shareholders . That profits are more important to shareholders over the long term than trying to convince wall street to increase your PE [via buybacks].
Meanwhile... buybacks just perpetuate insider dilution:
Companies continuously issue new shares to their managers without asking their existing shareholders. Those managers then leak that stock to the market a little at a time. It’s unlimited dilution of existing shareholders’ stakes, death by a thousand dilutive cuts. If that isn’t a scam, I don’t know what is. Individual shareholders have nothing but the chance to sell it to the next sucker. A mutual fund buys one million shares of a company with your and your coworkers’ money. You own 1 percent of the company. Six weeks later you own less, and all that money went to insiders, not to the company. And no one asked your permission, and you didn’t know you got diluted or by how much till 90 days after the fact if that soon.
[1] http://blogmaverick.com/2006/07/22/executive-pay-and-stock-p...