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Re:Open source LLM with 32k Context Length by sillysaurusx on Thursday August 24, 2023 @03:11AM (#37245941)
It’s not possible to have a license over an ML model trained on other peoples’ works, since such models are uncopyrightable. They’re more like a phone book; a collection of facts trained by an entirely un-creative process. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36691050

This hasn’t been proven in court, but it seems the most likely outcome.

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Re:Open source LLM with 32k Context Length by supermatt on Thursday August 24, 2023 @03:25AM (#37246029)
And yet meta are specifying a license, implying they do hold the copyright.
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Re:Open source LLM with 32k Context Length by sillysaurusx on Thursday August 24, 2023 @03:29AM (#37246047)
They’re mistaken.

It’ll take awhile for this mistake to be reconciled in court though.

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Re:Open source LLM with 32k Context Length by nemoniac on Thursday August 24, 2023 @08:26AM (#37247987)
Not saying that this applies to LLMs but if you describe them as "a collection of facts [collected and] trained by an entirely un-creative process" then it begins to sound like one could argue for Database Right.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Database_right

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Re:Open source LLM with 32k Context Length by inciampati on Thursday August 24, 2023 @09:49AM (#37248755)
Keep working on it! A good court case and a landmark decision about this could change the landscape for the market for these models.
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