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Re:Cash payments above €3000 to be outlawed in Netherlands by ffhhttt on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @11:07AM (#37237208)
So you need to be convicted by a court and the government needs to be able prove the money was obtained from illegal sources?

How is that unreasonable and more importantly what does it have to do with the €3000 limit discussed in this thread?

Re:Cash payments above €3000 to be outlawed in Netherlands by gunapologist99 on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @11:13AM (#37237306)
It can simply be seized.

Whether a conviction occurs in court is largely irrelevant, because it's in excess of the 3000 limit that this law actually puts in place, and therefore de jure illegal.

In the U.S., no conviction of the owner is even necessary, since the conviction is of the cash itself. This is likely coming to EU as well because it's a easy way for the enforcement state to increase its coffers and, in theory, stop money laundering.

Re:Cash payments above €3000 to be outlawed in Netherlands by input_sh on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @11:23AM (#37237479)
> because it's in excess of the 3000 limit that this law actually puts in place, and therefore de jure illegal.

I don't get it, do you not understand the difference between possessing a certain amount of cash and making a single payment over a certain amount in cash?

How do you make a logical leap from the latter to the former?

Re:Cash payments above €3000 to be outlawed in Netherlands by frumper on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @11:15AM (#37237351)
Similar laws in the US have readily morphed into we're going to hold it until you prove it's not from illegal sources. Googling it will provide many examples.
Re:Cash payments above €3000 to be outlawed in Netherlands by ffhhttt on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @11:19AM (#37237415)
I don’t care about examples from the US. How is that relevant or at all related to this specific ban?
Re:Cash payments above €3000 to be outlawed in Netherlands by frumper on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @11:37AM (#37237719)
> So you need to be convicted by a court and the government needs to be able prove the money was obtained from illegal sources?

The way you read laws isn't how the enforcers need to read it. That isn't a US specific issue.

Re:Cash payments above €3000 to be outlawed in Netherlands by frumper on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @11:39AM (#37237745)
Follow up, the EU is pretty much on the same page as US authorities. No convictions needed.

https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=1acd50be-5237...