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Re:NY Times Rides in Waymo Robotaxis in SF by mannykannot on Tuesday August 22, 2023 @08:46AM (#37221928)
> My point is, that theory and practice differ, and when they differ it’s not the practice that is wrong, but the theory.

Your socio-economic theory is at odds with what happened in the so-called western world over the last three centuries, but to understand why, one would need to step away from over-generalizing just the most dramatic parts of history, and study the boring bits as well.

Re:NY Times Rides in Waymo Robotaxis in SF by 3cats-in-a-coat on Tuesday August 22, 2023 @09:08AM (#37222172)
Would’ve been nice if your comment had any specific argument except a verbose take on “you’re wrong, because reasons”.
Re:NY Times Rides in Waymo Robotaxis in SF by mannykannot on Tuesday August 22, 2023 @09:13AM (#37222227)
It's more like "you're wrong, because your theory does not even correspond to evidence we have around us." The reasons why your doom-laden prognostications did not inevitably come to pass are not, however, reducible to a paragraph or two.
Re:NY Times Rides in Waymo Robotaxis in SF by 3cats-in-a-coat on Tuesday August 22, 2023 @11:40AM (#37224334)
Once again you forgot to even hint what evidence you’re talking about.

It’s like you’re eager to win an argument, you want that reward, so you’re posting, but you’re too lazy to actually make an argument. So you kind of keep posting half way and declaring yourself a winner because “everything around” proves you right about… something. It’s kind of funny.

Re:NY Times Rides in Waymo Robotaxis in SF by mannykannot on Tuesday August 22, 2023 @12:51PM (#37225407)
For example, your claim that “Every time people banded together to take the means of production, it resulted simply in destruction, instant corruption and a new autocratic regime built around the toughest thugs” is falsified by the history of Western Europe. If it actually were the case, Western Europe would now resemble North Korea, but instead, the means of production is well-regulated by democratic governments.
Re:NY Times Rides in Waymo Robotaxis in SF by tchaffee on Tuesday August 22, 2023 @12:58PM (#37225512)
I haven't seen any evidence in any of your comments. You try to persuade (which is not evidence), but I haven't been persuaded.
Re:NY Times Rides in Waymo Robotaxis in SF by 3cats-in-a-coat on Tuesday August 22, 2023 @01:40PM (#37226114)
At least it's clear what I'm trying to persuade you about.

As for evidence, frankly like this other guy says "it's all around us" but you need to translate what happens to systems (species, civilizations, ecosystems, nations, companies, industries) in smaller scale, and translate it to a globalized economy. Indeed, by the time we have evidence that our entire species is potentially screwed... we'll no longer have use of the evidence.

It's the same story as climate change. I actually think it's quite poetic both of those are hitting us at the same time. COVID was a bit early and a bit weak, but I'm sure another will come, to make the perfect triple storm.

Re:NY Times Rides in Waymo Robotaxis in SF by mannykannot on Tuesday August 22, 2023 @11:20PM (#37231483)
It is not entirely clear to me exactly what you are trying to persuade us about, though it is quite possible that we share a number of concerns. I am not, however, going to be persuaded of that on the basis of a socioeconomic theory that ignores, and attempts to contradict, the complexity of recent history.