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Re:Unlocking Discord Nitro Features for Free by ivraatiems on Tuesday August 22, 2023 @01:23AM (#37218985)
I suspect it's less they thought "this is a great implementation" and more "if people figure out how to break it, we'll patch it." This is the first time in several years of using Discord that I've heard of anyone even trying to circumvent their access/permissions structure for Nitro, so I see no reason why they'd bother unless this was widespread.
Re:Unlocking Discord Nitro Features for Free by Aulig on Tuesday August 22, 2023 @02:33AM (#37219395)
Modded discord clients have been around for quite while. But indeed, the threat of being banned deters most people and if just a handful of people use a modded client discord doesnt care probably.
Re:Unlocking Discord Nitro Features for Free by SSLy on Tuesday August 22, 2023 @04:27AM (#37220018)
There are even people like me, who have Nitro and still use modded client for different reasons.
Re:Unlocking Discord Nitro Features for Free by rvnx on Tuesday August 22, 2023 @04:41AM (#37220109)
Being able to delete your previous messages in bulk is a very good reason for example,

it's borderline (or completely ?) illegal to threaten users to ban them if they choose to use their right to mass-delete their previous messages.

Re:Unlocking Discord Nitro Features for Free by WhrRTheBaboons on Tuesday August 22, 2023 @06:29AM (#37220772)
illegal in EU (unless they provide some other option to comply with GDPR)
Re:Unlocking Discord Nitro Features for Free by t0bia_s on Tuesday August 22, 2023 @09:20AM (#37222312)
How can I delete previous messages in bulk on Discord?
Re:Unlocking Discord Nitro Features for Free by super256 on Tuesday August 22, 2023 @10:10AM (#37222963)
Re:Unlocking Discord Nitro Features for Free by t0bia_s on Tuesday August 22, 2023 @11:32AM (#37224207)
Thanks, that's super handy.
Re:Unlocking Discord Nitro Features for Free by meowface on Tuesday August 22, 2023 @10:50AM (#37223571)
Yeah, I think it's one of those things where Discord reserves the right to ban anyone using automation on their user account, but in practice they don't take action unless you're clearly doing something malicious or annoying. At least as far as I know.
Re:Unlocking Discord Nitro Features for Free by p1necone on Tuesday August 22, 2023 @05:30AM (#37220412)
I use a modded client to remove the minimum window size limit.
Re:Unlocking Discord Nitro Features for Free by aeturnum on Tuesday August 22, 2023 @03:20AM (#37219658)
Once you think about the tech I think there's an obvious steady state:

- It's cheaper not to check on every call sever-side and the people who are most likely to dodge in this way are also not likely potential sources of revenue.

- you shouldn't ban every person who tries this. They will gum up support and, on average, won't even be trying to earnestly get features for free.

- Also people who exploit the obviously vulnerable account interfaces may do other things that clue you in to vulnerabilities you care about.

It seems like it's a situation where you can let people fiddle around with this a bit (a few hours, a few days) and ban folks who do it too long (a month?). People who use it heavily are unlikely to be real revenue prospects and, at the end of the day, it's an engagement funnel. People rarely use hacks on a platform they aren't using.

Re:Unlocking Discord Nitro Features for Free by theshrike79 on Tuesday August 22, 2023 @05:39AM (#37220472)
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Re:Unlocking Discord Nitro Features for Free by bentcorner on Tuesday August 22, 2023 @11:21AM (#37224013)
> one day they just go poof and everyone knows why.

I thought the point of ban waves was precisely because there's no direct cause-and-effect. E.g., if you perform an exploit and get banned immediately, you know that the system can detect your exploit. If you get banned a month later, it might have been your exploit or something else you did between then and now.

This reduces the selection pressure on black-hats to produce ban-avoiding exploits.

Re:Unlocking Discord Nitro Features for Free by riversflow on Tuesday August 22, 2023 @03:39PM (#37227572)
Yeah, this isn’t a (multiplayer) video game cheat where users are actively harming your product by existing. This is a loophole that allows users more features than they pay for. If they do a ban wave off this, it won’t be good for business. Discord is a social media company, they live and die by the community.
Re:Unlocking Discord Nitro Features for Free by rollcat on Tuesday August 22, 2023 @07:46AM (#37221335)
Most people don't realise you can plug almost any HLS URL into ffmpeg and trivially rip the stream. Most live streams don't bother with DRM because it's expensive, fragile, and user-hostile. It's often difficult enough to get the motion picture to display properly at all, let alone with acceptable resolution, latency, and artefact-free. The smart companies prioritise UX over policing the "high tier" features.