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Re:To Conference Organisers Everywhere by pbhjpbhj on Monday August 21, 2023 @09:14AM (#37209122)
Is it necessarily lying?

If you go to a conference for a hobby that's tourism, right?

Re:To Conference Organisers Everywhere by pc86 on Monday August 21, 2023 @09:21AM (#37209236)
Very few people speak at conferences as a hobby. Even fewer speak at conferences as hobby about things they get paid for. Even fewer would be legitimately willing to do this if it included an expensive middle-of-the-night flight, jet lag, and a Visa application process.
Re:To Conference Organisers Everywhere by ghaff on Monday August 21, 2023 @09:28AM (#37209320)
I've done it. Of course, I didn't travel internationally just for the conference and I didn't need a visa, but I've attended tech conferences on my own--including speaking. Why not? And how many Europeans who attend FOSDEM or Americans who attend Flock (admittedly a lower bar than traveling internationally) are doing so on their own?
Re:To Conference Organisers Everywhere by arunarunarun on Monday August 21, 2023 @09:35AM (#37209408)
Generally, when you apply for a visa, there's documentation guiding you towards the correct type of visa based on purpose of visit. Everything I've seen buckets conferences under "business visa".
Re:To Conference Organisers Everywhere by xenophonf on Monday August 21, 2023 @10:33AM (#37210069)
That changes the parameters of the hypothetical. Your original hypothetical was explicitly about misrepresenting the purpose of one's visit to a country, which one should not do because that's illegal. *OBVIOUSLY*.

Whether attending a conference for a hobby counts as a vacation trip or a business trip would be a question for the destination country's consular affairs office.

Re:To Conference Organisers Everywhere by patrakov on Monday August 21, 2023 @01:18PM (#37212539)
> If you go to a conference for a hobby that's tourism, right?

That's exactly what I was told (as a statement, not as a question) by an official a few years ago when applying for a visa for a trip to Germany.

Re:To Conference Organisers Everywhere by ghaff on Monday August 21, 2023 @02:03PM (#37213132)
I know governments aren't always commonsensical but it would seem odd if someone (not in the business) would need a business visa to attend Comic-Con or similar.