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Re:YouTube no longer suggests videos if your ‘watch history’... by xg15 on Saturday August 19, 2023 @06:04AM (#37187189)
I can live with not having recommendations. What annoys me more is that Google is essentially holding useful features hostage to get their tracking fix.

I.e., I would actually love to have a list of the videos I've watched recently - on my device, with a simple option to delete it, exactly the same way that browser histories have worked since forever.

However, with YouTube, it's all or nothing: Either, I let them track my viewing history globally across all devices, store it on their servers for all eternity and do who knows what with the data - or I don't get any history at all, to the point where when I restart the app, it will completely forget the video I just watched a second ago.

Re:YouTube no longer suggests videos if your ‘watch history’... by Jenk on Saturday August 19, 2023 @06:38AM (#37187373)
NewPipe has that feature.

https://newpipe.net/

Re:YouTube no longer suggests videos if your ‘watch history’... by xg15 on Saturday August 19, 2023 @08:35AM (#37188131)
That looks interesting. Thanks a lot!
Re:YouTube no longer suggests videos if your ‘watch history’... by Corsome on Saturday August 19, 2023 @02:39PM (#37191740)
I think you're using a copycat app from Play Store. It's not a real app which is only available through F-Droid.
Re:YouTube no longer suggests videos if your ‘watch history’... by xg15 on Saturday August 19, 2023 @05:03PM (#37193165)
Ah, that was probably it. Gotta admit, I deserved it then, for not reading carefully enough :)
Re:YouTube no longer suggests videos if your ‘watch history’... by pxc on Saturday August 19, 2023 @05:42PM (#37193557)
It's a sad state of affairs, NewPipe being forbidden from distribution because the ad company that owns YouTube also owns the platorm's app store, and the app store being full of scammy apps including clones and malicious forks of F/OSS. No one deserves to be presented with traps like that. :-\
Re:YouTube no longer suggests videos if your ‘watch history’... by chii on Saturday August 19, 2023 @11:55PM (#37195975)
No clearer evidence of monopoly harming the consumer than this!
Re:YouTube no longer suggests videos if your ‘watch history’... by pxc on Saturday August 19, 2023 @03:48PM (#37192410)
Yeah that ain't Newpipe. Newpipe doesn't have ads.

Follow the link in GP.

Re:YouTube no longer suggests videos if your ‘watch history’... by ddingus on Saturday August 19, 2023 @03:54PM (#37192474)
As mentioned, that's not the genuine app in my experience.
Re:YouTube no longer suggests videos if your ‘watch history’... by sverona on Saturday August 19, 2023 @04:13PM (#37192680)
The 403 error should be fixed in release 25.2.
Re:YouTube no longer suggests videos if your ‘watch history’... by kzhe on Monday August 21, 2023 @07:32AM (#37208088)
The ads are because you're some copy someone made of the FOSS app and added ads
Re:YouTube no longer suggests videos if your ‘watch history’... by xg15 on Monday August 21, 2023 @07:37AM (#37208123)
Yep. Switched to the F-Droid version and now the ads are gone.

Also explains why the ads in the copycat version didn't integrate at all with playback controls or the rest of the app: Someone probably took the original apk, slapped the ads on as a separate thread/process inside the apk and never modified the app's original source.

Re:YouTube no longer suggests videos if your ‘watch history’... by dangus on Saturday August 19, 2023 @04:15PM (#37192706)
So you don’t need recommendations and you’d like a list of videos that you’ve watched recently locally.

This literally is browser history. Your browser is already giving you this.

Re:YouTube no longer suggests videos if your ‘watch history’... by simcop2387 on Saturday August 19, 2023 @04:43PM (#37192979)
The YouTube mobile app does not store watch history in your browser history.
Re:YouTube no longer suggests videos if your ‘watch history’... by xg15 on Saturday August 19, 2023 @05:04PM (#37193172)
Indeed, and that's exactly what I'm using on desktop. But on mobile, I prefer the app, and that one doesn't keep a local history.
Re:YouTube no longer suggests videos if your ‘watch history’... by dangus on Saturday August 19, 2023 @11:14PM (#37195752)
If you have strict privacy requirements, it’s interesting to also use the mobile app instead of the mobile website.

My suggestion is to stop worrying about hypothetical privacy problems and just use the watch history feature. Google will even automatically clear old history for you if you want.

HN nerds get the worst user experiences because they have these random lines in the sand. I’ve been guilty and often try to break out of it when I realize that the people who don’t know better are enjoying themselves more.

Re:YouTube no longer suggests videos if your ‘watch history’... by kzhe on Monday August 21, 2023 @07:33AM (#37208100)
Libretube, Newpipe
Re:YouTube no longer suggests videos if your ‘watch history’... by BlackjackCF on Saturday August 19, 2023 @04:51PM (#37193062)
I don’t know why they thought this was a good idea. I opened up YouTube and was met with what’s basically a blank timeline. How is this good for engagement? All this made me do is quit the app…
Re:YouTube no longer suggests videos if your ‘watch history’... by Macha on Saturday August 19, 2023 @05:57PM (#37193715)
What's weird to me is once upon a time the home feed was your subscriptions feed.

They eventually started trickling in suggestions based on watch history and today that's most of the feed.

I can see the argument that not having watch history means they shouldn't be building the per-user dataset to feed into the model to get the history based suggestions. Sure, but then... why not use the subscriptions, the information that users have provided you and what they thought that feature was for?

Re:YouTube no longer suggests videos if your ‘watch history’... by chii on Saturday August 19, 2023 @11:54PM (#37195967)
> What's weird to me is once upon a time the home feed was your subscriptions feed.

it's not weird if you examine it from the point of view of user retention metrics.

A subscription recommendation runs out, since you have small number of subscriptions (compared to the whole of youtube). Google wants to keep you clicking, and watching the next video. Algorithmically recommending videos instead of your subscription means you now have effectively infinite list of videos to watch, keeping your eyeball youtube.

Re:YouTube no longer suggests videos if your ‘watch history’... by Macha on Sunday August 20, 2023 @06:21AM (#37197778)
But an empty list runs out immediately, so the subscriptions still seems preferable for YouTube than that.
Re:YouTube no longer suggests videos if your ‘watch history’... by jraph on Saturday August 19, 2023 @06:02PM (#37193751)
Someone recommended NewPipe, it's a great app for Android.

If you watch videos on your laptop or your non-Android phone, invidious is quite good. I self host but I believe you could use any public instance and create an account there if you are fine with this public instance having your history and subscription list (which are separate from those you have on YouTube itself).