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Re:Show HN: A website for remote workers to find Airbnb's wi... by ajmurmann on Friday August 18, 2023 @11:58AM (#37177522)
If locals would vote to relax zoning and simplify regulations we wouldn't have the crisis in the first place.
Re:Show HN: A website for remote workers to find Airbnb's wi... by chongli on Friday August 18, 2023 @12:08PM (#37177681)
Locals are incapable of that because property owners are the majority of voters and unwilling to vote against their own interests. Furthermore, if one municipality solves its affordability crisis a ton of people will move there and gobble up the affordable housing stock. It’s a problem that can’t be solved locally.
Re:Show HN: A website for remote workers to find Airbnb's wi... by nonethewiser on Friday August 18, 2023 @12:29PM (#37178063)
> Locals are incapable of that because property owners are the majority of voters and unwilling to vote against their own interests

This seems unlikely to be true. Especially In the places where housing is most expensive. Do the majority of voters in NYC and SF own their house?

Re:Show HN: A website for remote workers to find Airbnb's wi... by chongli on Friday August 18, 2023 @12:42PM (#37178282)
The places where housing is the most expensive are the same places where people who cannot afford housing are forced to commute from somewhere else. Commuters don't get to vote in the place where they work; they have to vote where they live.
Re:Show HN: A website for remote workers to find Airbnb's wi... by nonethewiser on Friday August 18, 2023 @01:04PM (#37178652)
People do commute from outside but they are irrelevant. Do you think more NYC residents rent or own?
Re:Show HN: A website for remote workers to find Airbnb's wi... by chongli on Friday August 18, 2023 @01:38PM (#37179280)
They are not irrelevant. If they didn’t have to commute they would be able to vote in local elections.

Property owners vote at much higher rates than non-owners. Property owners are the only ones with the right to put up election signs. Property owners are far more politically connected than non-owners.

Re:Show HN: A website for remote workers to find Airbnb's wi... by kjkjadksj on Friday August 18, 2023 @12:05PM (#37177626)
The surprised reactions from airbnb taking up housing stock are from people who don’t piece together what you describe. Basically if the airbnb is taking needed housing stock, why not just zone for more housing? Or regulated hotels that these days are able to compete with airbnb on cost once again? That’s never mentioned though, people just stick fingers in their ears and repeat “screw airnbnb” without thinking of penciling this sort of stuff out to its logical conclusions.
Re:Show HN: A website for remote workers to find Airbnb's wi... by ktosobcy on Friday August 18, 2023 @12:04PM (#37177612)
I'm sorry but what are you rambling about?

Barcelona for example is flooded with tourists and "nomads" and save for basically banning short term rentals and eradicating cancerous Airbnb there is not that much that can be done...

Re:Show HN: A website for remote workers to find Airbnb's wi... by ajmurmann on Friday August 18, 2023 @12:13PM (#37177769)
Is the problem in Barcelona that the ration of tourists to locals is broken (I agree it is and didn't like it there when I visited because of this) or is the problem affordability as called out by the parent comment? If the issue is affordability this can be addressed by increasing supply.

If the issue is simply too many tourists flooding the city and changing the character, it's a different point than I was responding to and I don't have any well-formed thoughts on potential solutions and causes.

Re:Show HN: A website for remote workers to find Airbnb's wi... by ktosobcy on Saturday August 19, 2023 @11:48AM (#37189939)
It's both actually and they are compounding.

For the latter one there exists tourist tax that could curb a bit the overflood but AFAIR it was harder to enforce / collect with Airbnb and short term rentals (as opposed to typical licensed hotels and hostels) that only exasperated the situation by pushing more people to try to cash on the airbnb

Re:Show HN: A website for remote workers to find Airbnb's wi... by kjkjadksj on Friday August 18, 2023 @12:08PM (#37177678)
If there is demand for a thing and its exceeded such that people who want that thing can’t get it, just make more of that thing. Barcelona should build like Tokyo does until demand is satiated. The solution exists, people are just generally in favor of how things presently look and feel like and fear the unknown, so policies on land use tend to reflect these feelings.