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Re:Broadband Monopolies Push Bill That Would Crush Your Abil... by mint2 on Friday August 18, 2023 @10:54AM (#37176523)
The bill does way more than that, all horrible things. Care to comment on them?

Also, I lived for a time in Irvine Ca, one of the nation’s high tech hubs. Apparently Irvine did not have a whole community requirement on fiber. Parts of the city had google fiber and also att fiber. But Guess what att offered my neighborhood?

My neighborhood was one of the fairly central areas developed in the 70s and they only offered 5mb/s DSL.

In one of the highest tech areas of the nation and surrounded by fiber networks, my neighborhoods internet options was cox cable or att DSL that they happily charged the same price for their 5/1 DSL service that cox charged for 50/10. Not only that, they spammed adds for att fiber just to add insult to injury.

Sounds like community requirements are very much needed to prevent neighborhood red lining.

Re:Broadband Monopolies Push Bill That Would Crush Your Abil... by JJMcJ on Friday August 18, 2023 @11:37AM (#37177100)
Even Silicon Valley did not really get residential fiber until about 10 or so years ago.

Speaking of tech hubs.

Re:Broadband Monopolies Push Bill That Would Crush Your Abil... by rayiner on Friday August 18, 2023 @02:00PM (#37179613)
I have two different fiber lines into my house in my traditionally red county. Ask yourself why internet service is so bad in your affluent California towns, where Internet companies have infinitely more leverage and lobbying power than telcos.
Re:Broadband Monopolies Push Bill That Would Crush Your Abil... by mint2 on Friday August 18, 2023 @03:21PM (#37180764)
Why do people try to make everything about red versus blue?

Are you saying all red states are 100% fiber covered meccas? Sounds like your area is good but so was the block half a mile over in irvine. Congrats on living half a block over?

The point about internet companies having more lobbying power is odd as internet companies should want more connectivity not bad DSL.

And the OC is traditionally a Republican stronghold in CA and only recently changed. The city of Irvine has switched back and forth between dysfunctional politicians from both parties.

Why are you jumping to an us vs them red blue scenario in every situation?

Re:Broadband Monopolies Push Bill That Would Crush Your Abil... by rayiner on Friday August 18, 2023 @04:49PM (#37181914)
> Why do people try to make everything about red versus blue?

In general, blue states have more regulations on building things while red states have less regulations on building things. If you’re wondering why Google, a California company headquartered in the Bay Area, invested in fiber in places like Utah and Texas and Kansas, rather than in its own back yard, it’s worth considering whether red versus blue has something to do with that. And if your theory is that fiber doesn’t get built because of “lobbying”—explain why fiber doesn’t get built in California, where internet companies have all the power (and as you observe, have strong incentives to encourage building fiber).

Re:Broadband Monopolies Push Bill That Would Crush Your Abil... by mint2 on Friday August 18, 2023 @08:08PM (#37183907)
Hashtag completely ignores that my example was of google fiber and att fiber both in Irvine CA. Got to score those sweet red team points, facts won’t stop the points!