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Re:JobCorps.Gov: free job training, food, housing and living... by Aurornis on Thursday August 17, 2023 @07:04PM (#37169428)
They can do whatever they want on their own property.

If they want subsidized housing, they have to play by the rules.

It's not about banning "mind states". Once you have shared dorm-style housing you have to be more careful about the rules. If you have minors getting and/or being obviously drunk on your shared dorm-style housing and you do nothing, you're going to be in for a huge scandal as soon as one of those drunk minors does something harmful to someone else.

But let's think about this from a practical standpoint: If someone is quietly and safely getting drunk and then returning to their dorm unnoticed, nobody is going to know or care. This is a tool for them to exercise when people get out of line.

Re:JobCorps.Gov: free job training, food, housing and living... by thomastjeffery on Thursday August 17, 2023 @08:45PM (#37170220)
That is only truly moral if everyone involved is on equal footing with respect to the opportunity to own "their own property".

The entire existence of programs like this depends on the opposite notion.

Puritanical authoritarianism has an outsized effect on people who are less financially independent.

Re:JobCorps.Gov: free job training, food, housing and living... by verteu on Thursday August 17, 2023 @09:53PM (#37170626)
What do you mean "their property"? It's not private property, the program is funded by US taxpayers (eg: me).
Re:JobCorps.Gov: free job training, food, housing and living... by l33t7332273 on Thursday August 17, 2023 @10:15PM (#37170737)
I think you misread that. GP is saying they could do whatever they want on their property, but they are not on their property. They are on government property
Re:JobCorps.Gov: free job training, food, housing and living... by verteu on Friday August 18, 2023 @12:03PM (#37177602)
Ah yes I see.