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Re:Getting a job at Apple without going to college or doing ... by jkaptur on Thursday August 17, 2023 @12:44PM (#37164448)
Well, it describes what it's like to be in system B. All it says about how to get in is to build something (good? great? flashy?) and hope someone notices.

This clearly does work sometimes, but it's not necessarily the best advice for everyone.

Re:Getting a job at Apple without going to college or doing ... by curiousllama on Thursday August 17, 2023 @01:02PM (#37164782)
Yea fair point, totally agree. Big selection bias.

Still, I think a lot of folks could benefit from thinking through "how do I get into system B?" - because those skills are tremendously helpful in System A, too.

Re:Getting a job at Apple without going to college or doing ... by ska on Thursday August 17, 2023 @01:54PM (#37165556)
Build good things and develop a good network of people who know what you can do.

A lot of hires, even in companies like this, happen more from conversations that resumes and job postings.

As a hiring lead, there are a small handful of people I know well that I would try to create a job for immediately if they emailed me they wanted to join. As an employee, many job's I've had started something like that.

Re:Getting a job at Apple without going to college or doing ... by jkaptur on Thursday August 17, 2023 @02:00PM (#37165642)
Yep. Also learn like 5 data structures and 7 algorithms in case the relevant manager can't just unilaterally hire you.
Re:Getting a job at Apple without going to college or doing ... by zem on Thursday August 17, 2023 @02:13PM (#37165797)
there's an old joke about a company owner who would routinely throw half of every stack of resumes he received straight into the bin, because "who wants unlucky people working here?". i think a large part of why it's funny is because it really does take a considerable amount of luck to get hired at all, and especially through the system B process.