New York Times considers legal action against OpenAI as copyright tensions swirl

Re:New York Times considers legal action against OpenAI as c... by gmerc on Thursday August 17, 2023 @05:22AM (#37159183)

Well if use the tool to reproduce copyrighted content you are violating copyright. But that’s not the primary usecase and nobody in their right mind is arguing that.

The weights are not a reproduction of the content. They are capable of it but so is a photocopier a lot more and we didn’t ban those either despite them technically being a lot more useful for violation.

Nah, this is expansionist doctrine and agenda for copyright - these companies are trying to copyright style and locations in latent space now.

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Re:New York Times considers legal action against OpenAI as c... by mattmanser on Thursday August 17, 2023 @06:03AM (#37159457)

Photocopiers are for personal use, training an AI is not. If you photocopy 10,000 copies of copyrighted text and starting distributing it you will get sued.

It would be different if I trained my own AI, for my personal use.

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Re:New York Times considers legal action against OpenAI as c... by gmerc on Thursday August 17, 2023 @06:41AM (#37159688)

businesses use photocopiers, there’s Xerox shops, etc.

Again, LLMs don’t copy so it’s not a good metaphor.

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Re:New York Times considers legal action against OpenAI as c... by mattmanser on Thursday August 17, 2023 @06:54AM (#37159759)

I know. It's well established.

You brought up photocopiers and you never said it wasn't a good metaphor so I don't know why you pre-pended "Again".

If it's not a good metaphor, that invalidates your point that:

"we didn’t ban [photocopiers] either despite them technically being a lot more useful for violation"

So now you're arguing against yourself.

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Re:New York Times considers legal action against OpenAI as c... by gmerc on Thursday August 17, 2023 @07:08AM (#37159854)

I’m not. Take the printer instead. Much more capable of plagiarism and copyright violation

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