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Re:the US climate law is fueling a factory frenzy. Here’s th... by dragonwriter on Wednesday August 16, 2023 @05:46PM (#37154325)
> Democrats have been forced into a neoliberal corner

Democrats jumped there headfirst led by Clinton in 1992, and have not, since then, been any farther out of a “neoliberal corner” than they are today (which is not that far, to be sure, but its absolutely not the case that its something they recently backed into in response to Trump.)

Re:the US climate law is fueling a factory frenzy. Here’s th... by rayiner on Wednesday August 16, 2023 @08:08PM (#37155546)
Bill Clinton started it, but Obama’s bank bailouts and Hilary Clinton’s stirring defense of globalization deepened the shift.

Just look at the electoral map. Obama beat Romney by about the same margin as Biden beat Trump. But Obama’s margin in Michigan was 10 points, while Biden’s was 3. Obama’s 7 point margin in Wisconsin evaporates to 1 point.

Where did those other votes come from? To a significant degree, it was from affluent suburbs were the management class lives. Democrats now are utterly reliant on the very people they need to heavily tax to deliver any of their progressive promises. You can’t have a meaningful liberal party which counts among its base Silicon Valley, Wall Street, and Fortune 500 executives.

And it shows. Supposed democrats will now happily say we need immigration so we can have cheap strawberries. And they’ll embrace social ideas that alienate non-college educated working class people, because their priorities are different. A Facebook engineer can make whatever theoretical statements he wants about universal paid paternity leave. But at the end of the day, he or she gets 5 months from a big profitable corporation, and has no incentive to make the political compromises necessary to advance such a policy.

Re:the US climate law is fueling a factory frenzy. Here’s th... by ddd00001 on Thursday August 17, 2023 @08:55AM (#37160845)
Democrats are in a weird position where they're relatively moderate in terms of economics, but arguably the furthest left major party in the world in terms of social issues. The latter is turning off non-college educated of all ethnicities.
Re:the US climate law is fueling a factory frenzy. Here’s th... by rayiner on Thursday August 17, 2023 @12:31PM (#37164227)
Even more so when you look past the platform to what they can actually accomplish with the AOC-to-Jamie Dimon coalition they’ve put together. They got a temporary child tax credit through the Trump administration, but couldn’t even make it permanent when they got a trifecta.

Social issues are really the only thing where the party is unified and can push through changes, especially through the administrative state. We didn’t get a permanent child tax credit, or paid family leave, but we did get abortions and DEI in the military.