ISPs complain that listing every fee is too hard, urge FCC to scrap new rule

Re:ISPs complain that listing every fee is too hard, urge FC... by OfSanguineFire on Wednesday August 16, 2023 @02:06AM (#37143393)

I think that one of the reasons you have been downvoted is because you are generalizing too much about Europe. Neither the tip culture nor ordering water works the same across the continent, not even across all Western European countries. There are European countries where one does not even round up the bill unless one really wants to, and countries where it is totally commonplace to order a big pitcher of tap water.

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Re:ISPs complain that listing every fee is too hard, urge FC... by midoridensha on Wednesday August 16, 2023 @03:21AM (#37143792)

Fair enough. But I was replying to a comment that also generalized all of Europe as having no tipping culture. It just isn't true. I've been presented with credit card slips asking for a tip in multiple EU countries, exactly like when I go to a restaurant in the US. This is something you will never find in Japan.

Sure, you can say that you aren't "required" to tip in these cases, or that they're taking advantage of tourists who don't know better, but still, they're asking for a tip. To me, "no tipping culture" means that tipping simply does not exist. Europe has a tipping culture; it's just different than the US's.

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Re:ISPs complain that listing every fee is too hard, urge FC... by vladvasiliu on Wednesday August 16, 2023 @05:58AM (#37144849)

> I've been presented with credit card slips asking for a tip in multiple EU countries, exactly like when I go to a restaurant in the US.

I haven't seen it in this form in France (yet?). But I do see more and more payment terminals that are asking for a tip when they're presented to you. The amounts usually seem fixed, and you have the option of picking 0. I've mostly seen this in bars and similar situations.

Some stores may also ask you to "round up" to give to some charity. Fun fact: these didn't use to work with Apple Pay, so if you said yes, the assistant would have to cancel and restart the payment process.

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