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Re:Internet Archive Responds to Recording Industry Lawsuit T... by mlyle on Tuesday August 15, 2023 @03:05AM (#37131078)
I disagree. A median value might be really misleading (you could have very high usage for 49% of the collection, and nothing for the rest). But assuming average means "mean..."

You might have a few hotspots, but there's a very tight upper bound on how many downloads of each item. Further, it argues that the overall collection has a very high research and preservation value compared to the total number of downloads.

Re:Internet Archive Responds to Recording Industry Lawsuit T... by nottrobin on Tuesday August 15, 2023 @03:18AM (#37131155)
I don't agree. The size of the set is of paramount importance to that point. They can always bring the mean down by just adding more recordings to the set, to further obscure how popular the most popular recordings are. In a set of 10 billion, of course people aren't listening to most of them.

Quite clearly what the plaintiffs are afraid of is that there are a few very popular works in there that they could be making real money from. There's no way to know this from the mean alone.

Re:Internet Archive Responds to Recording Industry Lawsuit T... by dmbche on Tuesday August 15, 2023 @08:02AM (#37132882)
They got 400 000 records in the collection, I don't think they're being dishonest here
Re:Internet Archive Responds to Recording Industry Lawsuit T... by 6510 on Tuesday August 15, 2023 @08:04AM (#37132907)
That is far from the truth.

The companies have very successful legal departments. They go after the next lowest hanging fruit. They are just working, it's their job description to do this. This is why they will never stop, it never gets too absurd or overly unreasonable.

This was a good example:

https://rec.music.theory.narkive.com/y829eFoE/metallica-want... > Metallica are taking legal action against independant Canadian rock band Unfaith over what they feel is unsanctioned usage of two chords the band has been using since 1982 : E and F.

and:

> > We're not saying we own the E chord, or even the F - that would be ridiculous. We're just saying that together, people have grown to associate them with our music, and their continued use in the same song causes confusion, deception and mistake in the minds of the public.

The lawyers are simply aggressively[sic] exploring the limits of the law. They are not afraid to lose money if you play the E and F chord but it would be a nice victory if you couldn't.

In this IA case they are exploring a total shut down. I'm sure it again includes many works they don't even own the rights to. It seems equally sensible (or senseless) to fine and ban people from holding copyrights after repeatedly filling illegitimate take down notices.

Who knows, we might in stead end up auctioning the frequencies like with radio.

Re:Internet Archive Responds to Recording Industry Lawsuit T... by scotteh on Tuesday August 15, 2023 @08:35AM (#37133194)
Re:Internet Archive Responds to Recording Industry Lawsuit T... by 6510 on Tuesday August 15, 2023 @09:22AM (#37133682)
haha, that I was unable to tell the difference says a lot.
Re:Internet Archive Responds to Recording Industry Lawsuit T... by tga_d on Tuesday August 15, 2023 @11:05AM (#37134871)
Re:Internet Archive Responds to Recording Industry Lawsuit T... by mlyle on Tuesday August 15, 2023 @11:11AM (#37134958)
Even if all the traffic were from 100 pieces, that's a few thousand downloads per month. Let's talk about those specific pieces, then, instead of trying to obliterate an archive.