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Re:We Need Scientific Dissidents Now More Than Ever by mc32 on Saturday August 12, 2023 @11:29AM (#37101170)
The pushback from the CDC was very strong as well as the media and social media. Physicians were being censored and bullied for saying it was okay or for prescribing it.
Re:We Need Scientific Dissidents Now More Than Ever by wredue on Saturday August 12, 2023 @12:08PM (#37101604)
The problem is that you’re just taking opportunistic stances.

>Big pharma is bad, and we should not be pushing drugs that were rushed through approvals

This is your position when talking about vaccines, despite the fact that vaccines actually work, and the “rushed” actually just means it skipped months of wait times.

>big pharma is good, and we should be needlessly pushing drugs that have not been through efficacy studies just cause

This is your stance on ivermectin

You’re taking two different stances on the same position depending on what your political hero said.

Then you’re posting lies, and when called out on the lies, post more lies.

You say that physicians were “being bullied”. But they weren’t. They were being told not to push unproven drugs. That’s not “being bullied”.

Physicians were rightfully “being censored” when stating unsubstantiated claimed of efficacy, as the studies don’t support them.

Even today, different studies on ivermectin alone produce different results. Yeah. There are studies showing a positive benefit mild cases. But there are also studies showing no difference, and more studies showing zero preventative benefit for becoming serious.

That is to say that even today, we don’t have conclusive evidence that ivermectin works. So doctors who declare that it does are lying, and absolutely should have those statement “cancelled”.

Re:We Need Scientific Dissidents Now More Than Ever by aCoreyJ on Saturday August 12, 2023 @12:12PM (#37101646)
No they were being censored and bullied if they believed or led their patients to believe it is an effective treatment.

My Uncle had a patient dying yelling he didn't have Covid whose family doctor's only "treatment" was to prescribe them ivermectin.

It's not illegal, but I don't want that doctor.

Re:We Need Scientific Dissidents Now More Than Ever by raarts on Saturday August 12, 2023 @12:21PM (#37101736)
I can tell you that in The Netherlands doctors could be (and still can be) fined up to €150.000 if they prescribed HCQ or Ivermectin.