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Re:Wendelstein 7-X: Gigajoule energy turnover generated for ... by fizigura on Friday August 11, 2023 @04:04PM (#37093320)
The same was said 20 years ago about solar power.

Then some countries stepped up the subsidies game and booom, prices fell dramatically since suddenly everybody wanted a piece of the cake. And competition drove this all down.

All you need is for somebody to start. Or we just keep telling ourselves that it's too expensive, shrug, and move on.

Also note how the goal posts changed. Until recently, everybody made fun of fusion by basically saying it's too hard, it's too far in the future. Now it's not too hard anymore, it's just too expensive. What's next? Too loud? Too big? Induces headaches with the esoterically minded?

Re:Wendelstein 7-X: Gigajoule energy turnover generated for ... by pfdietz on Friday August 11, 2023 @07:23PM (#37095238)
And it was pointed out 40 years ago that DT fusion will be inherently expensive (specifically, more expensive than fission, which itself has demonstrated it cannot compete.)

https://orcutt.net/weblog/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/The-Tro...

Re:Wendelstein 7-X: Gigajoule energy turnover generated for ... by sercand on Saturday August 12, 2023 @05:59AM (#37098625)
Solar has the advantage of scaling down. 1000 people can give 1M US dollar which can produce approximately 1GW of power on a thousand of power plant in a year. You can scale down as low as 400W of energy production and distribute the financial cost to many people.