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Re:Z-Library Petitions U.S. and Argentina to Cease ‘Illegal’... by f6v on Friday August 11, 2023 @03:17PM (#37092718)
I have a friend who downloaded shit ton of books and never paid a dime. He thinks Z lib is one of the best things that happened to Internet.
Re:Z-Library Petitions U.S. and Argentina to Cease ‘Illegal’... by hackan on Friday August 11, 2023 @03:25PM (#37092818)
It indeed is, your friend is right.
Re:Z-Library Petitions U.S. and Argentina to Cease ‘Illegal’... by 1letterunixname on Friday August 11, 2023 @03:47PM (#37093120)
I can't disagree.

University publishers have consolidated in an anti-trust manner to virtual monopolies, and so charge zillions for books that should be $20 instead of $200. Universities have become massive cash-extraction businesses swimming in coin, spending 10-100M's USD each on buildings in short order, while trying to keep up the pretense of academic purity.

And then there are the journals that are so expensive that high school and college students and people in developing countries who cannot afford to get past their paywalls. This reinforces both an economic and a scientific elitism.

Re:Z-Library Petitions U.S. and Argentina to Cease ‘Illegal’... by refurb on Friday August 11, 2023 @10:09PM (#37096267)
Would you friend feel the same if they were an author or an artist who created the work and depended revenues from their work to put food in their mouth?
Re:Z-Library Petitions U.S. and Argentina to Cease ‘Illegal’... by ta123456789 on Saturday August 12, 2023 @07:21AM (#37099048)
At least for science books, authors get paid very little or nothing. And no researcher/teacher relies on that for their income.
Re:Z-Library Petitions U.S. and Argentina to Cease ‘Illegal’... by refurb on Saturday August 12, 2023 @11:04AM (#37100900)
That actually makes it worse, not better. You’re basically denying authors the peanuts they get.
Re:Z-Library Petitions U.S. and Argentina to Cease ‘Illegal’... by ta123456789 on Saturday August 12, 2023 @11:54AM (#37101447)
Look up the incredible profit margins of publishers such as Elsevier or Springer.

University researchers/teachers who publish books or articles through them often get paid nothing (zero), or very little. And they do not care, since their goal is get publications in prestigious venues, which helps them in their academic career.

My point is that this stuff should be free, open access, published at low cost through university presses etc. So pirating academic books is basically fine.

Re:Z-Library Petitions U.S. and Argentina to Cease ‘Illegal’... by refurb on Saturday August 12, 2023 @11:16PM (#37106352)
My point is that this stuff should be free, open access, published at low cost through university presses etc. So pirating academic books is basically fine.

That should be up to the author, no? If they decide to not make it open source and take a tiny profit, that's their decision since it's their work.

Re:Z-Library Petitions U.S. and Argentina to Cease ‘Illegal’... by f6v on Saturday August 12, 2023 @12:58PM (#37102077)
Well they can publish it on LeanPub and charge 20$ instead of 200$(of which most goes to publisher). Some books are just predatory business.
Re:Z-Library Petitions U.S. and Argentina to Cease ‘Illegal’... by refurb on Saturday August 12, 2023 @11:08PM (#37106306)
Sure, but publishers do a lot of promotion, have upfront bonuses, guaranteed quantities. There is a reason why people go with publishers and don't self-publish. You're paying for the reach and marketing.