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Re:Is the Airbnb Dream Dead? by JJMcJ on Friday August 11, 2023 @02:33PM (#37092176)
Hotel: Show up, sleep, watch TV, shower, use toilet, pay bill, leave. 99% that's it.

AirBNB: All those, plus clean up, worry about neighbors, half the time it's more expensive than a hotel, with a better chance of spy cameras.

Re:Is the Airbnb Dream Dead? by acdha on Friday August 11, 2023 @03:54PM (#37093220)
There are situations where it makes a lot of sense - for example, we just visited family where it made sense for my sister and I to share AirBnB houses since there were 3 young children and having a kitchen and separate play space was important. The problem is a lot of people got into real estate speculation thinking it’d be free money and they didn’t spend enough time thinking about what they were giving you over a hotel room.
Re:Is the Airbnb Dream Dead? by JJMcJ on Monday August 14, 2023 @02:21PM (#37124581)
> real estate speculation

I suspect many wanted an arm's length almost passive investment, and so they are putting the maintenance burden on to their guests.

Expecting cleanup for a three month summer rental tenant is one thing.

Expecting that for a three day guest is another.

Re:Is the Airbnb Dream Dead? by acdha on Monday August 14, 2023 @04:30PM (#37126414)
Also, I’d bet there were some very optimistic assumptions about overhead – retirees often make terrible landlords because they’re trying to hit targets for monthly profit and don’t have enough liquidity absorb cost increases. I suspect a lot of AirBnB hosts were in a similar boat where something like rates for cleaners going up really eats into the margin they are counting on.
Re:Is the Airbnb Dream Dead? by JJMcJ on Monday August 14, 2023 @06:02PM (#37127352)
The landlord who complains that rents aren't enough to make the mortgage, for example.

In an area like Silicon Valley, someone who buys a small property new and tries to rent it most definitely will not make the mortgage from rent, especially a single family house.