Has Google Translate been fixed yet?

Re:Has Google Translate been fixed yet? by komali2 on Thursday August 10, 2023 @11:35PM (#37084829)

Taiwan absolutely does not call itself China. At best the government that holds sovereignty in Taiwan is called the Republic of China, and yet daily everyone calls the country itself "Taiwan," and in fact even the passports were recently changed to say "Taiwan" in enormous letters to remove any confusion about what the people want. The government would change its name to also be Taiwan, or maybe Republic of Taiwan or something like that, but it can't do so without changing the constitution, which Xi Jinping has threatened to invade immediately if this occurs.

So it's both incorrect and disingenuous to say "Taiwan calls itself China."

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Re:Has Google Translate been fixed yet? by Y_Y on Friday August 11, 2023 @09:52AM (#37088685)

But the constitution does say it.

And so does Tsai Ing-wen:

> “We don’t have a need to declare ourselves an independent state,” Tsai told the BBC. “We are an independent country already and we call ourselves the Republic of China, Taiwan.”[0]

So it's not factually incorrect. Of course the issue is fraught and just saying "the country on Formosa is called the Republic of China" would be completely deceptive, but nobody is doing that.

Talk about Chinese politics is always heated but I don't appreciate being accused of being disingenuous.

[0] https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/15/tsai-ing-wen-s...

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Re:Has Google Translate been fixed yet? by komali2 on Thursday August 24, 2023 @03:53AM (#37246156)

"Republic of China" is a dramatically different name than "China." To claim that both the PRC and Taiwan call themselves the same name is to muddy the waters and contribute to the PRC's cultural imperialism through linguistic mechanism.

Furthermore, though Tsai Ing-Wen is the president of the RoC, as I said, there's a rising independence movement separate from the settler-colonial government of the RoC. Among these people, and the majority of Taiwanese, Taiwan is "Taiwan," and "RoC" is at best a formality, at worse an unchosen government underwritten by an unchangeable constitution.

The new passport illustrates the point decisively: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/66/Republic...

If you're unintentionally muddying the waters that's one thing, but I react strongly because I strongly oppose anybody that assists the PRC's cultural imperialism.

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