Re:CIQ, Oracle, SUSE Create Open Enterprise Linux Association
by gangohango on Thursday August 10, 2023 @02:37PM
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CIQ is rocky.
Re:CIQ, Oracle, SUSE Create Open Enterprise Linux Association
by linuxftw on Thursday August 10, 2023 @02:49PM
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I was thinking one of the distros was backed by CIQ, but I couldn't remember which, thanks.
Re:CIQ, Oracle, SUSE Create Open Enterprise Linux Association
by nhanlon on Thursday August 10, 2023 @05:24PM
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CIQ is a sponsor of Rocky (and my employer, to be transparent) - but they do not have a say over what Rocky does.
Re:CIQ, Oracle, SUSE Create Open Enterprise Linux Association
by nhanlon on Thursday August 10, 2023 @05:23PM
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We (RESF/Rocky) are _not_ CIQ, and do not take direction from CIQ.
End of story.
Re:CIQ, Oracle, SUSE Create Open Enterprise Linux Association
by gareim on Thursday August 10, 2023 @06:04PM
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I knew you'd show up and say this. CIQ's CEO claims to have founded Rocky and is the current president of RESF, is Rocky's most prominent sponsor, and Rocky's recent moves have been in the same direction that CIQ requires in order to survive. Regardless of direct control or not, Rocky's financial incentives align with CIQ's.
As you so point out your bias, it would be really nice if you didn't speak on behalf of your employer and let others make their own conclusions without hearing from those biased.
Re:CIQ, Oracle, SUSE Create Open Enterprise Linux Association
by geerlingguy on Thursday August 10, 2023 @07:48PM
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It'd also be nice if employees of Red Hat wouldn't make personal attacks on folks affiliated with Rocky Linux (and to a greater extent CIQ), justified or not, but I can understand nhanlon's defensiveness, just as I understand the defensiveness from many on Red Hat's payroll surrounding everything the past month+.
Re:CIQ, Oracle, SUSE Create Open Enterprise Linux Association
by ungamedplayer on Thursday August 10, 2023 @09:57PM
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Where is the personal attack?
Re:CIQ, Oracle, SUSE Create Open Enterprise Linux Association
by geerlingguy on Thursday August 10, 2023 @10:53PM
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Elsewhere, mostly centered around Twitter, Reddit, and LinkedIn. Thankfully the comms have been more level-headed around these parts.
Re:CIQ, Oracle, SUSE Create Open Enterprise Linux Association
by chasil on Thursday August 10, 2023 @11:12PM
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I can tell you that redhat has conducted a hostile license audit at my corporate data center.
This is one factor in my determination to never allow them into my regional data center. There are several other factors.
Re:CIQ, Oracle, SUSE Create Open Enterprise Linux Association
by CaliforniaKarl on Thursday August 10, 2023 @05:37PM
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Not true. Rocky Linux is a Rocky Enterprise Software Foundation project. And on https://www.resf.org, you can see that RESF is backed by lots more folks than just CIQ.
Re:CIQ, Oracle, SUSE Create Open Enterprise Linux Association
by geerlingguy on Thursday August 10, 2023 @07:45PM
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Bryan Cantrill had an insightful talk "Corporate Open Source Anti-Patterns" surrounding events from 8-12 years ago, and all I'll say is history definitely echoes sometimes: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Pm8P4oCIY3g
Red Hat never allowed CentOS to have any kind of election. It was never a community driven project after Red Hat bought it.
So, very interesting to see these companies banding together to give us back CentOS by another name. It will be interesting to see what Rocky and Alma do.