Re:After 118 days, GPT Unicorn has produced a unicorn
by olabyne on Thursday August 10, 2023 @09:00AM
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Thats even worse for autonomous cars, there is so such data and noise there is no way to reproduce the issue, it's complete chaos.
Whereas with a LLM if we control the seed we can 100% reproduce the same result
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Re:After 118 days, GPT Unicorn has produced a unicorn
by noduerme on Thursday August 10, 2023 @09:10AM
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>> if we control the seed we can 100% reproduce the same result
No, that's the problem. You can't. You should be able to, but you can't. If you could, they wouldn't be scary. But we have Temperature Zero, different results. Because no one gave enough of a shit when coding them, and no one gives enough of a shit to try to fix the issue.
This is what in any other industry would be called gross negligence.
Re:After 118 days, GPT Unicorn has produced a unicorn
by jquery on Thursday August 10, 2023 @09:35AM
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Re:After 118 days, GPT Unicorn has produced a unicorn
by noduerme on Saturday August 12, 2023 @05:47AM
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Interesting article. I can see how it makes sense for OpenAI or someone with a LLM to take advantage of any entropy that presented itself, as a shortcut to non-repetitive answers. I'm not sure if you're saying that these LLMs take on new characteristics as they get more randomized? Or just that it would be hard to get your hands on a fresh one to test the determinism of?
Re:After 118 days, GPT Unicorn has produced a unicorn
by olabyne on Friday August 11, 2023 @06:47AM
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That's a OpenAi problem, not a LLM problem
Re:After 118 days, GPT Unicorn has produced a unicorn
by sigmoid10 on Thursday August 10, 2023 @09:15AM
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>Whereas with a LLM if we control the seed we can 100% reproduce the same result
No, you can't. For the latest GPT models and the way they are run, this doesn't work anymore, making the experiment completely illogical. Some of the reasons are explained here pretty well: https://152334h.github.io/blog/non-determinism-in-gpt-4/