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Re:Seattle becomes first in U.S. to protect gig workers from... by PixyMisa on Thursday August 10, 2023 @02:41AM (#37072736)
> If the best the current system can offer is "either debase yourself like a peasant into multiple gig jobs that regularly screw you, or, be homeless, and sorry there's just nothing we can do about that"

It's not. Gig work is one of many options.

You can be a full-time employee. You can be a part-time employee. You can start your own business. You can work for local, state, or federal government in innumerable roles.

Or, if it suits you, you can be a gig worker.

Focus on specific cases of companies treating workers unfairly, as this legislation appears to do. There's no point railing against "the system" because there is no "system".

Re:Seattle becomes first in U.S. to protect gig workers from... by DropInIn on Thursday August 10, 2023 @08:11PM (#37083432)
Show me the full yime jobs as food delivery driver that would meet the demand for such jobs and I'll give you $100

Prottip: they don't exist

Delivery drivers always got paid jack and made the majority of thier income from tips. It was always a bad industry and Uber etc just make it worse by taking an additional cut and causing businesses to outsource to fewer total workers across the industry than would be employed/were employed under the traditional model where any business that wanted to do delivery had to do so by directly employing someone.

Re:Seattle becomes first in U.S. to protect gig workers from... by chongli on Friday August 11, 2023 @02:11PM (#37091910)
There's another side to that coin. If every restaurant that wants to offer delivery has to have their own driver, that means there are tons of drivers sitting around doing nothing while waiting for orders to come in. By outsourcing delivery to Uber, all restaurants in a city can be served by one pool of drivers, leveraging economies of scale. This opened the door to many more restaurants offering delivery because they didn't need to pay drivers to sit around.
Re:Seattle becomes first in U.S. to protect gig workers from... by DropInIn on Saturday August 12, 2023 @02:00PM (#37102655)
And?

That argument is essentially: Workers should suffer so those who already were of means can profit more.

You can't open a restaurant unless you're already doing well, with large amounts of capital etc.

Drivers are generally living oatcheck to paycheck with zero available capital.

You do see why I feel zero sympathy, right?

And that's ignoring you're actually arguing for drivers to do more work for the same or even less pay....