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Re:Jeremy Vaught spent 16 years to build @music on Twitter, ... by nullfield on Saturday August 05, 2023 @08:03PM (#37017521)
This is the consequence of lack of self-sovereignty, along with the lack of an agreed universal naming system.

That said, I’m not sure that first-come-first-wins is simultaneously fair, in such a universal environment. Nor, really, do I want it to be a “whoever can pay most gets the desirable names”, like DNS works.

I don’t have a better solution right now, but acknowledge that there’s a problem with the combination/intersection of “rarity” and “ownership” and such.

Are there any solutions that are even close to … some kind of fairness, or even approximation of a system that respects… anything?

Re:Jeremy Vaught spent 16 years to build @music on Twitter, ... by terribleperson on Saturday August 05, 2023 @08:35PM (#37017719)
A mandatory random set of numbers at the end of every name is an approach I quite like. Not only does it directly make every name available to 10,000 people, it should reduce the demand for these desirable names in the first place since you have to share them with thousands of other people.

Platforms should also consider accommodations for trademark holders. Most have some sort of program, but it seems to be a mess. If every normal screen name has a numeric code at the end, there's room to give trademark holders a non-numeric name without having to seize a handle from someone else. The spot normally occupied by the numeric code could be replaced with an indication that that account is owned by the trademark holder or with the name of the entity that owns the trademark, to differentiate it from normal accounts and also from any accounts that might hold a similar mark in a different business.

Re:Jeremy Vaught spent 16 years to build @music on Twitter, ... by rectang on Saturday August 05, 2023 @08:57PM (#37017871)
I like that you're making concrete proposals and the append-random-numbers approach is thought-provoking.

Removing the numbers for trademark holders is an imperfect solution though, though, since multiple entities can hold the same mark so long as they are in different markets.

A critical test for trademark violation is "does it cause confusion in the marketplace?" and if nobody confuses Oracle Software with HiSpec Oracle trailer tires or Oracle Lighting, they're all allowed to hold a trademark on "Oracle". But if you're talking about a namespace where "there can be only one", which of the entities who holds a registered trademark wins?

Re:Jeremy Vaught spent 16 years to build @music on Twitter, ... by terribleperson on Saturday August 05, 2023 @09:19PM (#37017999)
That's why I followed on with the suggestion of replacing the numbers with the owning entity. "Apple|Apple Inc." would be separate from "Apple|Apple Records." Of course, this is complicated when a trademark is owned by different companies in different countries or when a trademark is licensed to a company including the right to advertise with that trademark. An alternative thought I had was replacing the numbers with the business the trademark is in, but plenty of trademarks apply to more than one business and the 'primary' one can change over time.

There are assuredly better solutions, but even an imperfect solution is better than the current state of things. First-come-first-serve with unique per-site screen names just plain sucks.

Re:Jeremy Vaught spent 16 years to build @music on Twitter, ... by tiltowait on Saturday August 05, 2023 @09:14PM (#37017964)
Beyond making each name available to 10,000 (or more) people, randomizing the numbers puts everyone on a playing field. It’s an elegant solution—and why it’s such a baffling shame that Discord recently abandoned it for the terrible, outmoded “one unique username for everyone” approach.
Re:Jeremy Vaught spent 16 years to build @music on Twitter, ... by terribleperson on Saturday August 05, 2023 @09:21PM (#37018016)
Yes, I was quite annoyed that Discord decided to abandon their 4-digit numbers. The first place I saw the approach was Battle.net, and was happy to see it when I joined Discord. I'm glad Discord decided to provide the ability to have a separate nickname from your actual handle, but there was no good reason to dump the numbers.

edit: I agree the randomness is important. Without random numbers, the first person to get in will pick "0069".

Re:Jeremy Vaught spent 16 years to build @music on Twitter, ... by fluoridation on Saturday August 05, 2023 @08:15PM (#37017600)
>Are there any solutions that are even close to … some kind of fairness, or even approximation of a system that respects… anything?

One way could be have names mean nothing in terms of identification. You can call yourself "music" if you like, but so can anyone else. You're better off calling yourself something unique and then building a following, so that future potential followers can distinguish you from copycats.

Re:Jeremy Vaught spent 16 years to build @music on Twitter, ... by andrepd on Saturday August 05, 2023 @08:23PM (#37017647)
Discord kinda had that with username#1234 (4 digits). But that's being phase out.
Re:Jeremy Vaught spent 16 years to build @music on Twitter, ... by tagamma on Saturday August 05, 2023 @09:04PM (#37017912)
Is there an explanation anywhere of their reason for doing the phase out? Very curious!
Re:Jeremy Vaught spent 16 years to build @music on Twitter, ... by rurounijones on Saturday August 05, 2023 @09:10PM (#37017946)
User confusion.basically
Re:Jeremy Vaught spent 16 years to build @music on Twitter, ... by Ekaros on Sunday August 06, 2023 @02:49PM (#37025249)
Because absolutely everyone employed there. Or at least those having any power were incapable of coming up with alternative solution for adding friends... As 4 numbers was too hard to remember. And only possible way was to use exact name...

Not to generate link or email or something...

Re:Jeremy Vaught spent 16 years to build @music on Twitter, ... by sp332 on Saturday August 05, 2023 @08:30PM (#37017684)
Cult of the Dead Cow is launching Veilid at Def Con next weekend.
Re:Jeremy Vaught spent 16 years to build @music on Twitter, ... by verve_rat on Saturday August 05, 2023 @08:19PM (#37017621)
Better search?

Authors of books don't call themselves Scifi P. BestAuthor, they market themselves and their books.

First come first served for @music or @movies or @whatever shouldn't really matter if you want to find content you enjoy and want to follow the author for more of the same.

Re:Jeremy Vaught spent 16 years to build @music on Twitter, ... by rapnie on Sunday August 06, 2023 @02:37AM (#37019524)
Petnames. Similar to the contacts in your phone.

See e.g. https://spritelyproject.org/news/petname-systems.html