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Re:CEOs’ pay climbed before layoffs at tech giants like Alph... by s1artibartfast on Saturday August 05, 2023 @06:57PM (#37017051)
I disagree with pretty much everything you say except this.

>Employees are merely, an often undesired, side-effect in the business of boosting stock prices.

Employees are worse than a side effect, they're a cost center to be avoided if possible. You want to achieve your goals with as few employees as possible.

Re:CEOs’ pay climbed before layoffs at tech giants like Alph... by hotpotamus on Saturday August 05, 2023 @07:24PM (#37017238)
If you're a middle manager, what is your goal? Is it to have as few reports below you, or as many?
Re:CEOs’ pay climbed before layoffs at tech giants like Alph... by s1artibartfast on Saturday August 05, 2023 @07:38PM (#37017339)
If you're a middle manager then you're not a company owner. Your incentives depend on how well your company is being run on behalf of the owners.

If your company is run well, you're incentivized to do more with less. If not, then the opposite.

Shareholders want the CEO and Company to do the best job they can, and do it with the lowest employee cost possible

Re:CEOs’ pay climbed before layoffs at tech giants like Alph... by mistrial9 on Saturday August 05, 2023 @07:05PM (#37017097)
it is truly a product of the computer age, to come up with self-centered ego BS like this.

You do not acknowledge different industries or business models, distribution of physical goods or market brand activity, let along "things that take more that one person to do" .. This is a rote recital of an inner dialog of an ill "investor" CEO who might as soon throw his secretary off of a bridge than give a bonus for winter holidays.

There are not enough words to scourge this infantile, Ayn Randian nonesense from the page.

Re:CEOs’ pay climbed before layoffs at tech giants like Alph... by s1artibartfast on Saturday August 05, 2023 @07:18PM (#37017184)
Never in history have companies hired more employees for the sake of having more employees. This isn't a new modern or even libertarian hypothesis.

Do you think people in 1000 bc hired more employees than they needed just maximize headcount. Of course not. You want enough to get the job done and not more.

Re:CEOs’ pay climbed before layoffs at tech giants like Alph... by sackbut on Saturday August 05, 2023 @07:30PM (#37017278)
People in 1000 BC is maybe not the best example here considering practically the entire population of Egypt was tasked with building or supporting the building of the pyramids among many other projects.
Re:CEOs’ pay climbed before layoffs at tech giants like Alph... by s1artibartfast on Saturday August 05, 2023 @07:42PM (#37017368)
I think that's just as good of an example as any. Do you think pharaohs hired and fed more slaves than they needed to build a pyramid just to maximize worker numbers, or so the extra could sit around and take it easy?

Egypt had shops and Merchants too.

Can you think of any time between then and now where things worked that way?

Re:CEOs’ pay climbed before layoffs at tech giants like Alph... by cudgy on Sunday August 06, 2023 @05:02AM (#37020188)
So you are not interested or see any value in providing jobs for your fellow citizens?

At the least, don’t hire thousands of people over 1-2 years and then lay them all off. That shows poor ethical, leadership and management skills.

Re:CEOs’ pay climbed before layoffs at tech giants like Alph... by s1artibartfast on Monday August 07, 2023 @01:38AM (#37030564)
Not if those jobs cost more than they bring in.

I do think hiring a bunch of people and then firing a bunch of people is indicative of some sort of mistake. Nobody can perfectly predict the future. That said, when someone takes a job they know it's not a lifetime tenure position and has some risk.