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Re:YouTuber Kai Cenat in custody after game console giveaway... by bloopernova on Friday August 04, 2023 @06:56PM (#37006929)
If it's true that they didn't make any arrangements with police or the city, then I hope they're going to get billed for the policing, any damage, and the cleanup.
Re:YouTuber Kai Cenat in custody after game console giveaway... by badrabbit on Friday August 04, 2023 @09:07PM (#37007903)
Does that work if they didn't say anything to incite acts that required policing or damage? Doesn't freedom of assembly mean freedom to call others to gather peacefully in a public place? I don't even get how needing a license to gather a large crowd is legal, denial of the license, delay of the gathering or financial cost are all restrictions on freedom of assembly. I would think that like freedom of speech, the government would need proof of imminent harm to others to stop you. You don't need a license to stream to a large crowd on the internet for example.
Re:YouTuber Kai Cenat in custody after game console giveaway... by punkybr3wster on Friday August 04, 2023 @09:22PM (#37007993)
If you invite 6.5 million people to a gathering with no support and it takes 1000 police to subdue a massively disruptive crowd on the verge of rioting — you really think the person who invited the crowd has no culpability?
Re:YouTuber Kai Cenat in custody after game console giveaway... by badrabbit on Friday August 04, 2023 @10:15PM (#37008316)
How can you be culpable for the actions of others when all you did is ask them to assemble. Are you supposed to presume a large crowd would break the law and become unruly?
Re:YouTuber Kai Cenat in custody after game console giveaway... by fortyseven on Friday August 04, 2023 @10:38PM (#37008440)
It's reasonable to understand that past certain numerical thresholds, people stop being individuals and they become masses. And just on laws of averages they're going to get increasingly messy.
Re:YouTuber Kai Cenat in custody after game console giveaway... by badrabbit on Saturday August 05, 2023 @01:03PM (#37014088)
Yes, but there are many large assemblies, even presidential inaugurations exceeding a million people don't get unruly. Is there evidence they would be messy like you said were it not for policing?
Re:YouTuber Kai Cenat in custody after game console giveaway... by jrmg on Saturday August 05, 2023 @01:05AM (#37009178)
A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it.
Re:YouTuber Kai Cenat in custody after game console giveaway... by badrabbit on Saturday August 05, 2023 @01:09PM (#37014153)
MIB? Nice quote but in my experience I have observed both. I have seen multiple videos in the middle of BLM protesting and rioting where the crowd protects a cop to safety in the middle of cops dismembering protesters. And there was jan6 when they killed cops.

Depends on the person and the crowd! And their state of mind. A panicked crowd is ad irrational as a panicked individual, except their actions are amplified by their numbers. There are a few who act on their own and the masses who follow along because they think the crowd knows best.

I have been in traffic jams, get curious and take a random residential road trying to find a way out, and like 5-6+ cars follow me, even try to loose them and they follow me to a dead end street lol.