Ring of fire is BS and exists to marginalize certain people with ADHD in order to consider them a lost cause. Bupropion is not effective for ADHD.

Just want to warn people here. Follow-up warning: Don't trust psychs. Much like cops they're actively trying to ruin your life.

With such a vague warning you might want to add more context or references before making those claims. While it may be your opinion or experience that "Psychs are actively trying to ruin your life", those kinds of statements can also deter people who need actual medical help from seeking said help.

Directing people by default, especially ones with ADHD, is equally dangerous. People need to understand the threat to them.

"ADHD types" as I understand, are pretty controversial. If you're going to say that one "type" should not get medicine for a morbid condition, you should have a good reason.

What happens is a substantial percentage of people with ADHD get hurt by a system that uses them, chews them up, and spits them out with nothing, after taking every cent they have. Often times, we die from associated conditions, so it just gets swept under the rug. The industry isn't exactly searching for answers here, so their death is in vein, which infuriates me.

This is a known problem that I'm talking about, because I want it to change. Healthcare for people with ADHD is openly bigoted, degrading, and often harmful.

I'm astonished that despite all the news, conditions for people with ADHD are as bad as ever, and maybe getting worse. I think there's an interesting link to the trans community as well, since some of the psych issue overlap.

It may seem that trans have it better than ever, but they're up against whole armies now. There may be acceptance now, but I can imagine it being even harder to lay low. Mental health is less taboo, but people with ADHD are increasingly being marginalized, told to just give up on their aspirations, and accept life being disabled.

I have an entire rant about how ADHD kids are abused by the public school system.

The worst idea ever is assigning them "monitors". The kid is in a classroom that goes too slow to hold their interest. And there is an adult whose job is to torture them with reminders to return to task every time they get distracted. Guess how well this works? And yet it is a standard IEP intervention used across the country!

For less than the cost of adding the monitor, you could move the same kid into an environment where they can learn at their own pace. Thereby saving money, having the child learn faster, and removing a major source of disruptions for the rest of the class. But we've literally passed a law mandating "mainstreaming", which makes the common-sense and effective intervention illegal unless the parent pays for it out of pocket.

But that is a rant for another day.

Having a child myself with an IEP I absolutely agree with how utterly useless it is and how horribly the system works in practice. It's even worse nowadays as accountability has been completely removed from students and parents leaving the teachers to fend for themselves without help from the administration that collects fat paychecks.

Eat the rich I say, then we can start solving some of societies problems. Until then we are all just walking dollar signs, I imagine ADHD is particularly profitable to companies due to our impulse purchases and lack of executive function.

Yes, I've been thinking for quite some time of the many creative ways the condition is exploited by society. From social media to credit, advertising, social engineering, and psychological tricks.

Great fodder for the criminal industrial complex too.

Thank you for taking the time to respond and expand. I totally agree with the context you provided as you also see these same types of systems gobbling up many minority groups for profit or puritanical religious reasons.

In my personal experience, my current behavior health provider (which is not a psych) has been very interested in trying to find whatever works to help me get along in this world, be it medication or not. Maybe I got lucky there.

I've always been gotten the impression that ADHD is just another hurdle in my life and that I just have to work harder than more neurotypical people to achieve the same results.

I am curious to know about what age range you are in as I wonder if this is also a generational / parenting difference? I am almost 40 myself and see many hurdles and issues that my kids are facing nowadays which I can't even imagine sometimes.