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Re:Pegasus Mail by folkrav on Thursday August 03, 2023 @12:52PM (#36988392)
I feel like there's an in-between we're not talking about, that would look a bit less like a shareware site from the early 00s, used more than 30% of my screen, and would work on my phone, but isn't the modern mess of megabytes of JS bundles for a static landing page. It could load in 35-50ms, too, I wouldn't mind.
Re:Pegasus Mail by washadjeffmad on Thursday August 03, 2023 @12:57PM (#36988470)
"Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing more to add, but nothing left to take away."

I value negative space in the same way that my dream is not to pile my plate with as much as I can at a buffet.

Re:Pegasus Mail by thfuran on Thursday August 03, 2023 @01:01PM (#36988524)
That's nice, but I value text that renders at a legible size more than I value leaving the majority of my screen empty. This layout isn't effectively using negative space, it's just wasting the entire screen. At least on mobile.
Re:Pegasus Mail by drivers99 on Thursday August 03, 2023 @01:25PM (#36988906)
On mobile I just use two thumbs to zoom in to the column I want to read.
Re:Pegasus Mail by libraryatnight on Thursday August 03, 2023 @02:31PM (#36989792)
Blatant ableism against the mono-thumbed or thumbless.
Re:Pegasus Mail by toomim on Thursday August 03, 2023 @06:54PM (#36993209)
The mono-thumbed can always double-tap the desired column, and thumbless folx can use their nose.
Re:Pegasus Mail by folkrav on Friday August 04, 2023 @10:09AM (#37000320)
If only we had simple CSS rules to present things in a way that doesn't require one to do this
Re:Pegasus Mail by renewiltord on Thursday August 03, 2023 @01:33PM (#36989010)
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Re:Pegasus Mail by djbusby on Thursday August 03, 2023 @05:01PM (#36991837)
How did you do that?
Re:Pegasus Mail by qmarchi on Thursday August 03, 2023 @06:14PM (#36992770)
Unicode tricks. A quick Google search for "small text generator" will point you in the right direction.
Re:Pegasus Mail by Sabinus on Thursday August 03, 2023 @06:53PM (#36993198)
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Re:Pegasus Mail by folkrav on Friday August 04, 2023 @10:08AM (#37000296)
You're free to call that "negative space", it's still 70% of my screen that's just blinding white, and 30% that's a tiny, non-responsive column layout. You call it perfect, I call it annoyingly empty and bad usability on mobile.
Re:Pegasus Mail by nathell on Thursday August 03, 2023 @01:42PM (#36989144)
A lot of sites from https://512kb.club/ are like that.
Re:Pegasus Mail by thesuitonym on Thursday August 03, 2023 @03:04PM (#36990270)
Why does it need to take up more than 30% of your screen? And what's wrong with your phone? It works perfectly fine on mine.
Re:Pegasus Mail by scblock on Thursday August 03, 2023 @03:15PM (#36990410)
Legibility and usability. Like many old sites this one uses small fonts, small elements, and has tiny targets. Especially when working on a large display. I make liberal use of Firefox's zoom feature to compensate, but better defaults don't hurt.

And yes it works on a phone as you can easily zoom in, but inclusion of responsive design, e.g. moving the sidebar to a footer, and use larger fonts would significantly improve legibility and usability. This is not incompatible with a simple and fast-loading site.

Re:Pegasus Mail by folkrav on Monday August 07, 2023 @02:23PM (#37038476)
I guess we have very different definitions of "works perfectly". Sure, the page displays as intended, if that's what you mean. Tiny 3 pixel high links are neither accessible nor very usable.
Re:Pegasus Mail by indymike on Thursday August 03, 2023 @03:31PM (#36990627)
If you are looking for Pegasus mail on a mobile device, I think you might be a wee bit outside of the target market. And btw, Pegasus is a shareware site from the 1990s.
Re:Pegasus Mail by folkrav on Tuesday August 08, 2023 @11:59AM (#37051066)
Why do you make the assumption that people running, or interested in running Pegasus, would not read things on their phone?